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How my e-reader lost its stripes

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Re: How my e-reader lost its stripes

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Post by IanCal »

asdff wrote: post #17
IanCal wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is so tiring. > Like the x-axis label of the first plot mentions that it shows gridlines every 8 ticks - I don't think that's a choice I've ever seen a person make The spacing being 8 is important and seems not so bad to call this out in an extra place. Imagine LLMs didn’t exist for a moment. Is this the part of the article you’d find most intriguing? That the grid lines being an unusual distance apart is writte…

If I saw the charts in the pre AI era I would also be confused. I mean it is just awkward and not done like this. OP is right, no one on earth says they put gridlines every so and so ticks anywhere, much less the figure title. Gridlines should be obvious what they are trying to show on a chart like this. They should actually be aligned with the tick marks on the x axis. In fact, why are those on a nice even 10s scale…

> and it should have been 10 marks

It absolutely should be 8 here. The fact that it is 8 is extremely relevant because the figure is showing a pattern that has that frequency.

Re: How my e-reader lost its stripes

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Post by IanCal »

ainch wrote: post #19
IanCal wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is so tiring. > Like the x-axis label of the first plot mentions that it shows gridlines every 8 ticks - I don't think that's a choice I've ever seen a person make The spacing being 8 is important and seems not so bad to call this out in an extra place. Imagine LLMs didn’t exist for a moment. Is this the part of the article you’d find most intriguing? That the grid lines being an unusual distance apart is writte…

> Imagine LLMs didn’t exist for a moment. Is this the part of the article you’d find most intriguing? I would think it's odd! That's why I mentioned it. I like to pay attention to vis, I feel like I've seen many charts from Tufte-y perfection, to slapdash undergrad presentations, and to experienced consultants banging things together in Excel at 1am. This tic feels very LLM-y to me, which imo makes it interesting to…

I want to really understand this, your issue is that the non-standard grid spacing is called out on the axis? The grid spacing being 8 is unusual but clearly sensible here - your issue is just that this is written also on the axis label?

> Is there a particular inference you would like me to make from those experiences?

The incredible amount of unnecessary detail people put into their posters specifically (hence the better poster movement), desperate to show everything.

Re: How my e-reader lost its stripes

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Post by ainch »

IanCal wrote: post #22
ainch wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Imagine LLMs didn’t exist for a moment. Is this the part of the article you’d find most intriguing? I would think it's odd! That's why I mentioned it. I like to pay attention to vis, I feel like I've seen many charts from Tufte-y perfection, to slapdash undergrad presentations, and to experienced consultants banging things together in Excel at 1am. This tic feels very LLM-y to me, which imo makes it interesting to…

I want to really understand this, your issue is that the non-standard grid spacing is called out on the axis? The grid spacing being 8 is unusual but clearly sensible here - your issue is just that this is written also on the axis label? > Is there a particular inference you would like me to make from those experiences? The incredible amount of unnecessary detail people put into their posters specifically (hence the…

> I want to really understand this, your issue is that the non-standard grid spacing is called out on the axis? The grid spacing being 8 is unusual but clearly sensible here - your issue is just that this is written also on the axis label?

Pretty much yep - it struck me as odd and reminded me of an LLM tic I've been thinking about recently, so I thought I'd write a short comment.

> The incredible amount of unnecessary detail people put into their posters specifically (hence the better poster movement), desperate to show everything.

I hadn't heard of the better poster idea before, thanks for clueing me in. I largely agree that posters have a lot of unnecessary detail, but I think it's a different flavour to the LLM stuff - more like they're so excited to tell you everything in their paper. Whereas LLMs focus on odd details, or fail to explain things.

Can I ask, if you use LLMs often in your work, have you never run into this experience?

Re: How my e-reader lost its stripes

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Post by fennecbutt »

PerilousD wrote: post #5

Okay ill give you points because I never heard of Xteink X3or the open-source CrossPoint. I have a Kobo reader/pen note taker and a Kobo ereader (somewhere) one is too large and one is just meh. Im going to try one of these but it would have been easier to pick something if you actually said HOW DOES IT WORK OUT OF THE BOX AS AN ACTUAL EREADER!

The author never intended their article as a review. So why not look up "xteink x3 review"?

You're on HN ffs...

Re: How my e-reader lost its stripes

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Post by shimman »

IanCal wrote: post #22
ainch wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Imagine LLMs didn’t exist for a moment. Is this the part of the article you’d find most intriguing? I would think it's odd! That's why I mentioned it. I like to pay attention to vis, I feel like I've seen many charts from Tufte-y perfection, to slapdash undergrad presentations, and to experienced consultants banging things together in Excel at 1am. This tic feels very LLM-y to me, which imo makes it interesting to…

I want to really understand this, your issue is that the non-standard grid spacing is called out on the axis? The grid spacing being 8 is unusual but clearly sensible here - your issue is just that this is written also on the axis label? > Is there a particular inference you would like me to make from those experiences? The incredible amount of unnecessary detail people put into their posters specifically (hence the…

Do you really have a hard time imaging that someone would call out an obvious AI slop label as weird and poor quality? Like it's quite clear people do not like LLM generated content and feel betrayed when they didn't consent into consuming LLM generated content.
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