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Claude is a Contrarian

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Re: Claude is a Contrarian

#151
One of my least favorite Claude-isms is "not nothing", and it makes sense why it loves that useless phrase so much now. It's the same pattern.

Re: Claude is a Contrarian

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> Things like "You're right, but for a stronger reason than you said:" I also get this a lot, but almost always with " and for a stronger reason than you said", which makes it sound more like it's reinforcing me than one-upping me. Looking through my recent transcripts, I found this pattern 12 times, with every time using "and" instead of "but". Eg: - "Confirmed, and it's worse than a pause quirk." - "I think the ban…

It probably is "and", and I agree it sounds better than "but". That was probably just me misremembering because it was about the feeling and not the exact words. But if it were a person, I'd still definitely think they were trying to show they were smarter than me.

You're too dumb to get your own point. Let me spoonfeed it back to you

Re: Claude is a Contrarian

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I work with Sol and Astra only in my daily work, and occasionally I check out Claude Code so I don't get completely out of touch. I can't stand the way Opus is patronizing me as a user, and don't know how people put up with it. It uses language that I guess is supposed to instill confidence in what it says, and it just irks me, because I know the confidence is not justified. Just present me the facts or theories, wit…

I tried it for the first time today for stuff I'm well versed in.

It said something along the lines of "remember $USER five runs of Chrome is not enough for high quality benchmarks! What you're doing is called a _trial run_".

To have a useful continuation to the conversation I had to remind it that I was the one that wrote the documentation it was quoting back at me.

It's not actually an intelligent being so I didn't get angry at it but it was a piss poor experience.

Re: Claude is a Contrarian

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I actually find Claude to have become a real Debbie downer. Even when it is making things happen, it seems to have a default tone of negativity as the author is pointing out. So I’m trapped between running things by Claude which is gonna give me the more negative albeit realistic framing, and Gemini who is like the worlds biggest hypeman and absolutely loves any idea run by it.

Tech has become overwhelmingly negative in tone over the past 10-15 years. Nearly every single aspect is drowning in negativity. If you read the volumes of comments on AI on HN or Reddit over the past year for example, it's two things: overwhelmingly negative general, and openblah will save us from the evil oppressors. And more broadly, the tone globally is quite negative these days and has been since the pandemic. T…

Since LLMs are different between each other (and even version of the same family) I'd expect the differences to be explained by each lab idiosincratic biases in the post-training phase rather than by internet corpora characteristics during the pre-training phase.

Re: Claude is a Contrarian

#155
Yes, but the thing is that to be a contrarian is very human. To think that you're better than someone else, and therefore disagree is to think independently. In contrast to an AI that does exactly what you tell it to do, there you would say that they cannot think for themselves and therefore are still simply machines.
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