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Post by AlexandrB »

ctkhn wrote: post #638
usernomdeguerre wrote: post #608

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The unfortunate part is that each individual who attempts to leave is fighting the Network Effect[0]. It's fighting against the human organism's basic social nature. If every person wants to leave the platform but X person stays because Y person is there, and Y person stays because Z person is there, and Z person stays because X person is there then it's a feedback loop. Each person wants a better solution or platfor…

Not really relevant for public service announcements like gp is talking about. I just want a live feed of my local services updates. I get weather alerts from my city and county over text (contracted by the government through a third party platform), I would take them as a dedicated app or rss feed or anything. I'm not connecting to my friends or family through a weather alert or train delay notice

RSS was so good for this. No wonder Google had to kill it.

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Post by gong_hits »

sailfast wrote: post #492
phforms wrote: post #434

I know it’s hard for some people (for understandable reasons), but at some point we have to ignore the X site completely and make politicians and public services/institutions aware that some people do not have or want access to the site. That is the only way anything might change someday. Maybe I’m just being naive here, but what else can you do? xcancel was amazing and I hope they can continue in some way. But since…

This would be totally doable except for a couple of recent changes during the DOGE take-over where federal agencies mandated communication on X as their primary means. This is clearly illegal as all comms need to be posted in different accessible places as well as the federal register - but that never stopped anybody in this administration from a bit of grifting to drive users to their own platform. I’m bummed about…

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Re: XCancel service is suspended until further notice

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Post by flaburgan »

immibis2 wrote: post #349
flaburgan wrote: post #245

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I actually do want to do something. I started to scrape Twitter to make it freely available. The web should stay open.

I am also doing something, by hosting one of the public instances of Nitter. Nitter is useful for sporadic random access to tweets, but for public feeds like municipal authorities etc. it would be useful if someone scraped the feed and re-hosted the feed from their own server, without being hobbled by rate limits. Is that what you're doing?

Yes, exactly. I limit the scraping to popular enough accounts. The wikimedia community is already organized to decide who deserves a Wikipedia page so I use that.

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Post by WarmWash »

swed420 wrote: post #628
WarmWash wrote: post #574

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I'm not totally dismissive of FLOSS, but it's kind of a unique situation so you can't really extrapolate broad generalities about society from it. Software basically has zero marginal cost, and is pretty unique in that regard. If baking 1 loaf of bread was identical to baking 10,000,000 loafs, we would have solved hunger centuries ago... There also is the fact that a large amount of FLOSS is an exercise in resume bui…

> There also is the fact that a large amount of FLOSS is an exercise in resume building (FLOSS contributions is SWE resume building 101) Not all of it. Plus, we could say the same thing about the typical worker at the average modern company. Google's product graveyard is a popular example of this. Resume padding, job hopping and ladder climbing are the norm now. In that respect, I can see why you're so pessimistic ab…

The key thing to address is the near zero marginal cost part.

If the philosophy extended beyond a binary blob, we would have a whole parallel economy of free tangible goods, from workers using their expertise on their own time. But this basically doesn't exist because real costs are involved.

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Post by saghm »

AlexandrB wrote: post #651
ctkhn wrote: post #638

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Not really relevant for public service announcements like gp is talking about. I just want a live feed of my local services updates. I get weather alerts from my city and county over text (contracted by the government through a third party platform), I would take them as a dedicated app or rss feed or anything. I'm not connecting to my friends or family through a weather alert or train delay notice

RSS was so good for this. No wonder Google had to kill it.

RSS still exists though? Do you mean Google Reader?

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Post by WarmWash »

Dylan16807 wrote: post #635
WarmWash wrote: post #631

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I think you might be confused, because any creator can make their content free to access. If they are playing in someone else's house, yeah there might be rules they don't like, but it's also not their house. Nothing stops creators from self-hosting and absorbing the full cost themselves.Yt doesn't even care if you link to your own hosted version of the video on their platform.

I meant what I said. Companies are allowed to be rude to everyone but it's still bad for them to be rude.

Rude that they don't give you free unencumbered access?

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Post by ToValueFunfetti »

treyd wrote: post #430
spuz wrote: post #404

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The decision to force you to sign in to view replies is clearly not by accident or ineptitude. It's probably not malice either - just a business decision.

A system that makes "business decisions" indistinguishable from malice is an interesting one.

If I have something you want and I could give it to you but instead charge you money, is that malice? If so, what system wouldn't make malice indistinguishable from business decisions? If not, what distinguishes that from a login wall in exchange for viewing content?

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Post by suby »

ralfd wrote: post #305
Aerocatia wrote: post #296

I have been suspended from Ex-Twitter for months for "inauthentic behavior" despite only ever just using the site normally. I would very much like to have nothing to do with this site anymore, but unfortunately many people and organizations from before Elon took it over still post there and I can't make them all move to another site (and the same site for that matter), so here we are.

Come on, be honest, what did you do?

I have had my account since like 2013. I browse the site and hit like on things, but I only have a handful of posts going back over the years. Occasionally, when I do try to post, it stops me because they think I am a bot. Meanwhile, I see what are clearly and unambigously bots follow me all the time, I see identical messages repeated across obvious botnets. Their bot detection is just very bad.

Also, while we're on the subject, I used to have two factor enabled. After Elon bought the site, they forced me to disable two factor for insane reasons, iirc you needed to pay for a blue checkmark if you wanted two factor. Today for the first time they've started blocking my access to even view the site until I authenticate with a qr code from an android or ios device. The future of the internet is bleak.

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Post by asadm »

I don't really get the hate for X btw. What kind of kool-aid is everyone on?

I seem to be able to post/access pro-Palestinian content there easily, no other platform lets me do that.

It has also been great for my project and find the right community from scratch.

Re: XCancel service is suspended until further notice

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Post by Dylan16807 »

WarmWash wrote: post #656
Dylan16807 wrote: post #635

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I meant what I said. Companies are allowed to be rude to everyone but it's still bad for them to be rude.

Rude that they don't give you free unencumbered access?

When they got the content for free, usually yes.
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