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Steam Frame starts at $1059

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Post by imthatsteve »

Zambyte wrote: post #120
wnevets wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That sounds like a worse experience to me.

When sitting, the optimally comfortable angle to look, and the optimal place to hold a controller are very far from each other. The Deck is basically only fun for long sessions if you can play it laying down. VR is more flexible in this regard.

I have used my deck (multi hour sessions) for a long time from the couch, bed, and gaming chair and i found them all very comfortable. As long as your chair has arm rests then it shouldnt be too bad. The only place i havent used a deck much is at a table or from a bench with no arm rests,and i could see how either might be uncomfortable.

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Post by whatever1 »

daemonologist wrote: post #132
thih9 wrote: post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For comparison, Apple’s Vision Pro has 3660x3200 pixels per eye.

Yep, across a smaller fov too (100 degree horizontal).

Seems like we need one more decade of oled panel and gpu improvements before we can have good enough density with a reasonable size and power consumption.

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Post by vwem »

zokier wrote: post #130

Isn't it bit odd that there is no basic wired connectivity option? Or am I just old-fashioned? As far as I can tell you only options are 6GHz streaming or stand-alone mode

Apparently the beta just added support for this.

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Post by crooked-v »

zokier wrote: post #130

Isn't it bit odd that there is no basic wired connectivity option? Or am I just old-fashioned? As far as I can tell you only options are 6GHz streaming or stand-alone mode

The streaming is good enough now, especially with foveated rendering, that there's no reason for them to eat the extra support cost and user experience drag of focusing on a tether.

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Post by peesem »

medlazik wrote: post #113

10 years later and VR headsets are still too heavy, hot and sweaty. Short of having brain implants or magical contact lenses, nothing will ever change that. Can't be used more than 30min without major discomfort for most people. Any talks about it replacing monitors are lies.

in my experience this is only an issue when headsets are unbalanced between the front and back, since this results in the weight going on your nose/face rather than straight through your head to your neck. the frame's battery is on the back specifically for this reason in addition to the whole thing being relatively light anyway

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Post by vunderba »

joshcsimmons wrote: post #151

This is a huge step backwards for VR. The headset is heavy, hot, and worst of all, expensive. This is the opposite of progress for this field.

Nitpicking a bit - once again another FOV of ~110. Sigh.

Maybe I’m just being picky, but I feel like I’m playing a submarine periscope simulator when I use these things. It’s been over a decade since the early VR headsets like the Rift, and it’s pretty much the same as it’s always been.

The only headset that didn’t give me this tunnel effect was the Pimax 8K, but it had its own problems.

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Post by ErneX »

joshcsimmons wrote: post #151

This is a huge step backwards for VR. The headset is heavy, hot, and worst of all, expensive. This is the opposite of progress for this field.

Weighs less than Quest 3 on the first review I saw? They also said weight was better distributed, not as heavy in the front area as others.

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Post by echelon »

tapoxi wrote: post #134
njovin wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Everyone is missing maybe the biggest point - this isn't just a VR device. You can run some/many (depending on your library) of your regular Steam games on a 'flat screen' inside the VR environment, which makes this much more like a SteamDeck with a giant private screen for a lot of people.

This machine runs Linux, it comes with KDE. This is the open Apple Vision Pro alternative that you can use as a real computer. It comes with a black and white passthrough camera but you can add on a 5K color one. There's ongoing work for a full Plasma XR mode, so you aren't restricted to a "virtual desktop" experience: https://invent.kde.org/plasma/kwin/-/merge_requests/8671

> https://invent.kde.org/plasma/kwin/-/merge_requests/8671

This is Compiz Fusion [1,] 20 years later.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kR8x5Wb26ew

[2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lawkc3jH3ws

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