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Microsoft patches Windows and Excel – breaks audio, remote access, and paste

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Re: Microsoft patches Windows and Excel – breaks audio, remote access, and paste

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Post by a-priori »

kenhwang wrote: post #37
alphager wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you had recent experiences? I thought the same until I tried it out, on decision stable no less. The driver support nowadays is incredibly good on Linux (my desktop Bluetooth didn't work under Windows with official drivers; just works without any tinkering under Linux).

One of my machines is always Linux desktop; I've been using it to see if it's ready enough for my main desktop to switch over and so far my verdict has been it's not. Last weekend I tried updating to Linux 7.2, and WiFi drivers failed to compile, so it's been fun.

If you're talking about compiling WiFi drivers, then you're not using Linux the way most people do.

Re: Microsoft patches Windows and Excel – breaks audio, remote access, and paste

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Post by Yizahi »

xvxvx wrote: post #3

Aside from the audio issue, it feels like the remote access and pasting issues should have been discovered in QA. This constant slide in quality over the past few years has me looking to Linux as an option.

Haven't you heard? QAs are unnecessary ballast now, devs and managers can test product just as well in their spare time ;) . Also, people are buying bug ridden products anyway, so why bother.

Re: Microsoft patches Windows and Excel – breaks audio, remote access, and paste

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Post by mejutoco »

xlayn wrote: post #28
xvxvx wrote: post #3

Aside from the audio issue, it feels like the remote access and pasting issues should have been discovered in QA. This constant slide in quality over the past few years has me looking to Linux as an option.

Just do it, if you want linux to be exactly windows without issues, that will never happen, but if you accept the compromises linux has been there all this time waiting for you to accept a tradeoff. Windows brought the disease of "Always on like a cellphone, because that's where the trends are going, and you have to be able to just open it and keep going on" which is exactly what suspend to ram was, and even then on…

I agree with your sentiment, but I dont see linux as windows with some compromises. I simply see windows as unusable (only wsl is imo), so anything will be an improvement.

Re: Microsoft patches Windows and Excel – breaks audio, remote access, and paste

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Post by this_user »

xvxvx wrote: post #3

Aside from the audio issue, it feels like the remote access and pasting issues should have been discovered in QA. This constant slide in quality over the past few years has me looking to Linux as an option.

No need for QA if you just tell Claude to "make no mistakes".

Re: Microsoft patches Windows and Excel – breaks audio, remote access, and paste

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Post by the_solenoid »

SSLy wrote: post #34
mikestew wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

it feels like the remote access and pasting issues should have been discovered in QA. You're thinking of 20-years-ago Microsoft. Microsoft famously got rid of their software test teams like ten years ago. As one who worked there 20-some years ago on their test teams, I'd say the quality of their software is really starting to show the negative effects of such a move. (FWIW, we got rid of our last Windows machine in t…

that rotting lack of QA is now spreading through their Xbox subsidiaries too. WoW is much buggier than ~4 years ago.

To be fair, WoW is a 20+ year old game that to my knowledge never really got the ground up rewrite it has needed.... so I feel issues keep compounding faster and faster. Also - and not trying to defend MS here - I am pretty sure MS has been fairly hands-off about how blizz is run - so far. Just the general enshitification going on in parallel everywhere.

Re: Microsoft patches Windows and Excel – breaks audio, remote access, and paste

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Post by Yizahi »

ainar-g wrote: post #6
xvxvx wrote: post #3

Aside from the audio issue, it feels like the remote access and pasting issues should have been discovered in QA. This constant slide in quality over the past few years has me looking to Linux as an option.

> This constant slide in quality over the past few years has me looking to Linux as an option. Just out of curiosity, what's holding you back? I'm not trying to evangelize or something, it's more of a personal collection of reasons various people have provided that I have.

It is very hard to debug and fix stuff on Linux if something goes wrong. One can be a greatest network specialist and know all the innards of Linux tools, but then Nvidia driver glitches and whoops... Or dist-upgrade craps DE. or package manager spits out some circular errors with no way to untangle them for a non-expert. Stuff like that.

Basically the problem is not that the "floor" difficulty is a little above "very easy". Linux distributive maintainers and developers have succeeded in lowering the "floor" almost to the Mac or Win levels these past years.

The problem is the "ceiling" is too high, "very hard" in other words.

Also apparently Linux has quite a few failure modes when graphical DEs are run inside VM, to the point of r/Linux just outright telling me "I'm holding it wrong"... ahem... telling me that VMs are unreliable for desktop and I should run it natively. But due to those same personally experienced VM issues, I'm vary about going all-in on native install. Yes, there is dual boot too and I do know the correct order to it (at a guess, not many Win users would, and then risk wiping their old MBR), but for now I'm delaying trying native install (again). A lot of hassle unfortunately, and I'm a procrastinator.

Re: Microsoft patches Windows and Excel – breaks audio, remote access, and paste

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Post by dcrazy »

a-priori wrote: post #41
kenhwang wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One of my machines is always Linux desktop; I've been using it to see if it's ready enough for my main desktop to switch over and so far my verdict has been it's not. Last weekend I tried updating to Linux 7.2, and WiFi drivers failed to compile, so it's been fun.

If you're talking about compiling WiFi drivers, then you're not using Linux the way most people do.

Ah yes, they’re just holding it wrong.
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