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Post by mahboi »

ralfd wrote: post #305
Aerocatia wrote: post #296

I have been suspended from Ex-Twitter for months for "inauthentic behavior" despite only ever just using the site normally. I would very much like to have nothing to do with this site anymore, but unfortunately many people and organizations from before Elon took it over still post there and I can't make them all move to another site (and the same site for that matter), so here we are.

Come on, be honest, what did you do?

Happened to me when I did literally nothing but make an account. Tied to a Gmail.

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Post by swed420 »

WarmWash wrote: post #477
vladgur wrote: post #418

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How does one not engage with the corporate product at all? Im typing a comment on a website of a corporation whose goal is to grow companies into corporations, via a computer manufactured by a corporation on a keyboard produced by a corporation, staring at a screen produced by a corporation, while connecting to an internet service offered by a corporation. Never mind that im also employed by a corporation, dressed by…

On some level there is local/small businesses. They are less efficient and hence you usually have to pay more for less, but it avoids the a lot of the "power structure" that people have strong distaste for. On a deeper level there is none. Overwhelmingly peoples complaint is that they need to do something to get something, which is just how life is, a shared annoyance that is just a fact of reality.

> they need to do something to get something, which is just how life is

FLOSS invalidates that statement.

Many people are happy to contribute to something greater than themselves. They also happily acknowledge they're standing on the shoulders of giants.

Re: XCancel service is suspended until further notice

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Post by multjoy »

aperrien wrote: post #489
bpt3 wrote: post #472

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> Your utility will post a highly localized service outage that might only affect 1 block of a city or less to their world facing twitter feed? And not simply alert customers via their phone on file as they've done for me forever? It doesn't match your very contrived example specifically, but yes essential services in my major metropolitan area provide more useful and timely information via twitter/X than other sourc…

Is it possible to help or encourage our local municipal services to have either an RSS or BlueSky feed? At this point, it's becoming apparent that putting all the information eggs in the twitter basket is/was a bad idea. This is a place where open source standards should shine.

This is an area where Mastodon ought to shine. Departments/organisations can create their own instances, with named users. Interested constituents follow those users with their client of choice. Direct following means you avoid the federation dramas.

No algorithim means that people get the updates they want when they're posted. Users get a familiar-looking client to bang out the quick updates.

Obviously the issue is someone will need to run it, but if you're not open to public signups then the moderation burden doesn't exist and it's just a case of keeping things updated.

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Post by mahboi »

Forgeties79 wrote: post #122
newscracker wrote: post #113

This may be a situation where revealing a solution may end up harming it. For those who use iOS and other Apple OSes, I learned of this recently released free Safari extension called Litterbox that allows looking at one post on x.com. [1]: https://andadinosaur.com/launch-litterbox

People really need to just not visit it. You don’t need to browse Twitter to be on top of current events. Anything posted there will be available elsewhere within minutes (and hopefully it will have been vetted somewhat)

Anything posted there won't be elsewhere in minutes, maybe not ever. I'd probably use Twitter if I cared a lot about current events.

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Post by swed420 »

WarmWash wrote: post #371
swed420 wrote: post #342

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Convenient that your "principles" disallow you from seeing critique of said principles.

Funny that your critique is still capitalist...

It's not though. That's literally the point of the article.

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Post by butlike »

scottyah wrote: post #505
butlike wrote: post #437

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Well, to be fair, time is more valuable than money. You can't make more time.

Scarcity is only one factor in a valuation. You can't make more of my boogers yet I doubt you'd trade any of your time or money for them haha.

True, but I can make my own boogers, and kind of do automatically, so that's pretty common. Some people get fecal transplants, which is rarer, but let's say if I want to build... I don't know, lets say a house. I can lay the bricks myself, which is a transaction against my lifespan (not just a transaction on a product of my body like boogers or fecal matter), or I can hire you. When you're hired, I essentially get two lives since I can do life things at a rate of 2x while you remain employed. I guess the real value comes in buying your time, not necessarily the product of 'you.'

Life is both scarce AND irreplaceable, which is why the valuation is so high.

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Post by kijashdkujdfhas »

natch wrote: post #526
kijashdkujdfhas wrote: post #241

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It is a half-measure, though. It reduces Twitter's traffic a little. It screws with some of their metrics a little, with the shared accounts having access patterns of several humans all mixed together. It might affect revenue a little. It doesn't do much to address the underlying issue of there being people who you might want to hear from who primarily post their content on a platform owned by a white nationalist. If…

White nationalist is a wild, wild misreading though. Though not an uncommon one. The Overton window doesn’t allow talking about all real issues, so people like yourself mistake race as the crux of the matter, when other issues are the real topic. If you want understanding, work on helping open, not close, the Overton window.

Nah, he's shown his hand thoroughly at this point.

You may not realize this, but you're making excuses for his behavior. I'd recommend not doing that.

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Post by kijashdkujdfhas »

natch wrote: post #520
pino83 wrote: post #501

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Yes, I like the analogy. Even if you don't agree with "Nazi", it makes the illustration quite obvious: There is a bar that scares you off so much that you wouldn't even go in. So there must be something fundamentally wrong with it. It's not just not your favorite beer, but you absolutely avoid even to enter . There must be a strong reason for that, right? What people are then important enough to watch through the win…

Very well reasoned and it fits a long evolved pattern but what you’re describing fits the mass sociopathic behavior called shunning, as engaged in by some religions like JW if you need a neutral example to think about. It is in no way good for society or for individuals in the long term.

Nazis should be shunned.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance

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Post by vladgur »

porkshoe wrote: post #445
vladgur wrote: post #411

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You want to read what service XYZ offers, but you dont want to do it within the constraints of service XYZ. If you dont want to follow the constraints of service XYZ, you dont have to consume its content. The market would dictate that if X content consumers found it too inconvenient to consume from X and that would result in a significant drop in demand, the X content producers would stop producing their content on X…

> I suspect that for most people Most people do not use X. X usage is down year over year. The smartest people I know don't post there anymore.

This is where freedom of choice is great. You can follow the people you want on platforms of your preference.

The smartest people i know, i mostly know because of their X presence.

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Post by arppacket »

phforms wrote: post #434

I know it’s hard for some people (for understandable reasons), but at some point we have to ignore the X site completely and make politicians and public services/institutions aware that some people do not have or want access to the site. That is the only way anything might change someday. Maybe I’m just being naive here, but what else can you do? xcancel was amazing and I hope they can continue in some way. But since…

This is what we should have done the moment a Nazi bought Twitter in order to create a "vibe shift".
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