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Apple's Siri AI Can Be Swapped Out for Claude, ChatGPT, Code Shows

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Re: Apple's Siri AI Can Be Swapped Out for Claude, ChatGPT, Code Shows

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Post by spiralpolitik »

freedomben wrote: post #13
akie wrote: post #10

This is a very clever platform play. If you make Siri / your mac the central access point for all AI related workflows and make models interchangeable, then Apple has a huge weapon in the AI race.

I don't disagree, but I do feel the need to point out this was not Apple's plan A. Luckily for them they have so many tools and options at their disposal, that they are able to massively fail at developing their own models and still end up in a good position.

It's the same plan. Apple's model is:

Handle the query on device. If the device cannot handle the query, push the query to Private Cloud, If Private Cloud cannot handle the query, push the query to a third party of the users choosing.

Which is pretty much the same as what they announced a few years ago.

Apple underestimated the amount of time and work needed to get to work and really the only bit that I think changed is that Private Cloud (and possibly the on device model) is a white label Google model rather than being developed in-house by Apple.

Re: Apple's Siri AI Can Be Swapped Out for Claude, ChatGPT, Code Shows

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Post by c-hendricks »

Tagbert wrote: post #73
Dennip wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd settle for a siri that can at least turn the lights off properly. Google assistant on the nvidia shield left Siri in the dust years ago. Siri can't even chain basic commands in your smart home, it can't retain any kind of context (e.g. dim the lights...a bit more).

You haven’t used the beta

I tried "turn off the lights in [room a] and [room b]" in the new Siri app and rather than Siri saying they can't do compound commands they just turned off the lights in one of the two rooms listed.

So, progress?

Any agent with the Home Assistant MCP hooked up can do it fine.

Re: Apple's Siri AI Can Be Swapped Out for Claude, ChatGPT, Code Shows

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Post by rock_artist »

Apple Foundations Models Framework already aimed towards some generalized API for models. Personally I like it, just as I would be a little happier if instead of codex/claude/antigravity (rip gemini cli) I would have single standardized interface.

With mobile devices especially where ideally models could be shared across several apps.

But this specific code I'd assume is targeted to comply with EU regulations more than anything.

OT:

Since I've moved to Spain my principal Apple account is still in my home country but I've made another one for local app-store (since some local apps aren't available if you're not in the Spanish store).

iPhone is acting really strange, I'm logged to my principal account for iCloud+ and anything and local App Store.

If I log back to my principal account, I loose HCE mode and my building NFC app stops working until I re-log in the Spanish Apple Store.

If I'm logged at the Spanish account, I loose Siri AI which is blocked in the EU...

Re: Apple's Siri AI Can Be Swapped Out for Claude, ChatGPT, Code Shows

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Post by c-hendricks »

theturtletalks wrote: post #69

Once Siri gets MCP support, it’ll be my main orchestrator. I built an app that lets me run terminals on my MacBook. It’s a Next app so I can go to that website on my phone using Tailscale. It has a built-in MCP server, so I can connect it to ChatGPT and have it create terminal sessions, orchestrate terminal sessions, all that good stuff. Down the line, I’d like to be able to connect it to Siri and just talk to my pho…

I'd love it if Siri does, but I don't expect big corps to keep supporting MCP since MCP gives so much control to the end user, can't charge for eg. Google integration when someone can just add an MCP to handle it.

Re: Apple's Siri AI Can Be Swapped Out for Claude, ChatGPT, Code Shows

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Post by bastawhiz »

cobolcomesback wrote: post #70
Kuyawa wrote: post #51

Siri was the first widely available AI bot but they forgot to open it to developers. The ecosystem would have grown a million fold in all these years Never underestimate the power of a bored programmer Siri turn on the lights Siri code a Doom clone in Swift Siri design a landing page for a Consulting Agency Siri summarize the latest news about AI Siri find a solution to the Riemann hypothesis Now that's an agent I'd…

Amazon did exactly this with Alexa skills and it hasn’t exactly been a booming success. Turns out that all of the things you listed as examples are stuff that most consumers don’t actually want or will use. “AI as a chat bot” has always been cool and fun in sci-fi movies, but it’s the least imaginative real world use for it. We need to move past it. > $ Siri 'List the files in this folder' Why in the world would I ev…

The problem with Alexa is that by the time it appeared anywhere other than Echo devices, it was already deeply enshittified. Siri is in your pocket, on your wrist, and in your ears. Alexa was stuck on your kitchen counter asking you if you wanted to try Amazon Music.

Re: Apple's Siri AI Can Be Swapped Out for Claude, ChatGPT, Code Shows

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Post by usern20260720 »

Kuyawa wrote: post #51

Siri was the first widely available AI bot but they forgot to open it to developers. The ecosystem would have grown a million fold in all these years Never underestimate the power of a bored programmer Siri turn on the lights Siri code a Doom clone in Swift Siri design a landing page for a Consulting Agency Siri summarize the latest news about AI Siri find a solution to the Riemann hypothesis Now that's an agent I'd…

$ Siri 'rename this thousand of photos in these folders describing their content and make sure to use the same name for duplicates regardless of their size'

I am waiting for this function to sort my folders

Re: Apple's Siri AI Can Be Swapped Out for Claude, ChatGPT, Code Shows

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Post by TheDong »

And you can also sideload apps (only in the EU), change you default navigation app from apple maps (only in the EU), and use more features of the NFC reader (only in the EU).

The code for all of those things is there, but not enabled if for most iOS users. There's a non-zero chance this code is there for Apple to try and convince the EU to let them release a Siri AI, and then just like sideloading have some impossible-to-actually-use alternative path to make the DMA happy.

Re: Apple's Siri AI Can Be Swapped Out for Claude, ChatGPT, Code Shows

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Post by cdrnsf »

My favorite Siri behavior is telling it, on my phone, to turn on a focus state only for it to transfer the request to a nearby HomePod that tells me it can't help with that. I hope the new changes to it are an improvement, but the bar is currently buried in the dirt.

Re: Apple's Siri AI Can Be Swapped Out for Claude, ChatGPT, Code Shows

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Post by MBCooked »

MBCook wrote: post #72
anslopic22 wrote: post #53

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There’s a reason everyone knows the various wake words. All the big companies know how suicidal that would be. They already get accused of it by people who don’t understand how targeted web advertising works. Some of the new AI start-ups don’t seem to understand that, but Apple absolutely will not make a mistake that stupid.

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