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Apple's Siri AI Can Be Swapped Out for Claude, ChatGPT, Code Shows

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Re: Apple's Siri AI Can Be Swapped Out for Claude, ChatGPT, Code Shows

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Post by bel8 »

dgellow wrote: post #32
bel8 wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Genius would have been for Apple to get Siri in a better state after so many years. This looks more like a participation medal, if at all.

They didn’t invest in Siri and became the most valuable company in history. I don’t think Siri being better would have mattered much to be honest. Not joining the financial black hole that is AI training seems to have benefited them well so far. But yes, it’s definitely a case of failing upwards. Adding quotes around “genius” as it seems you misunderstood what I meant

> They didn’t invest in Siri...

What makes you think that? They insisted on Siri for so long and even made a big deal of Apple Intelligence in WWDC.

Then Apple threw the towel and waved the white flag with regards to Siri and replaced their efforts with third party AI.

Re: Apple's Siri AI Can Be Swapped Out for Claude, ChatGPT, Code Shows

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Post by Grombobulous »

taybin wrote: post #12

It’d be short sighted to not have a wrapper around which AI to use, even without implementation for them. Like, having an abstract parent class with a Siri implementation of it would be baseline good software engineering.

I’m not even sure how they would implement these features without them being interoperable. All the AI systems use pretty similar if not identical API standards.

Re: Apple's Siri AI Can Be Swapped Out for Claude, ChatGPT, Code Shows

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Post by sigbottle »

layer8 wrote: post #25
crazyeng wrote: post #20

Just playing the devil advocate: what happens when the answers from a not-Apple LLM are garbage? Who the users are going to blame, Apple or OpenAI, Anthropic, etc..? I'm not 100% on Apple side on this, I would love to chose whatever I want, even local models, but I get why trey trying to control 100% of the user experience. If they could trust any provider with customers data, they would let them in, since they're no…

Are people blaming Apple when Google search in Safari gives garbage results? Some probably are, but that really shouldn’t be a relevant discussion, in particular when the user explicitly chose which AI backend to use.

Well, we can generalize this a bit to model routing in general. Actually, just AI in general - even when directly interacting with GPT we haven't figured out good protocols yet.

Re: Apple's Siri AI Can Be Swapped Out for Claude, ChatGPT, Code Shows

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Post by tencentshill »

syntaxing wrote: post #4

I would pay a good chunk of money if Apple released a local AI hub to coordinate all AI usage locally (including photo indexing).

That is rumored to exist.

https://www.macrumors.com/guide/apple-command-center/

Mark Gurman seems to get extraordinarily accurate and detailed leaks. I wonder how Apple got this leaky. Pretty much everything about the Duo was known months in advance.

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Post by delfinom »

tencentshill wrote: post #44
syntaxing wrote: post #4

I would pay a good chunk of money if Apple released a local AI hub to coordinate all AI usage locally (including photo indexing).

That is rumored to exist. https://www.macrumors.com/guide/apple-command-center/ Mark Gurman seems to get extraordinarily accurate and detailed leaks. I wonder how Apple got this leaky. Pretty much everything about the Duo was known months in advance.

Well, either corporate security got incompetent or they intentionally let select leaks exist to "test the market response". Established companies tend to get more risk averse overtime.

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Post by pvtmert »

donbox wrote: post #39
Someone1234 wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah; plus we know they're designing with potential future local-only Vs. hybrid Vs. cloud-only in mind depending on hardware/market changes. So having it be this flexible buys them a ton of future potential. People have speculated that with FPGAs or even an ASIC you could take some smaller models we have today, turn the chip into essentially that model-as-hardware, and get some really compelling performance/power-us…

Maybe we would get LLMs on (pluggable) cartridges.

May happen with Android, not going to happen on $AAPL devices... Heck, even the battery is non-swappable!

Re: Apple's Siri AI Can Be Swapped Out for Claude, ChatGPT, Code Shows

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Post by tiffanyh »

taybin wrote: post #12

It’d be short sighted to not have a wrapper around which AI to use, even without implementation for them. Like, having an abstract parent class with a Siri implementation of it would be baseline good software engineering.

And given how Apple switched out OpenAI for Gemini (to power Siri), they experienced firsthand the importance of having said wrapper.
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