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Post by rich_sasha »

zqwt3k wrote: post #109

Thanks Elon, now we know that scraping is illegal! Very good to clarify that for future proceedings against the AI thieves.

I wonder what legal gymnastics are needed for "I can scrape anything off the web ignoring copyright and build a product from this, but you can’t even display what’s on my webpage elsewhere”.

Perhaps that is it in fact. The act of protecting it from scraping means you object. 99% of the blogged contents etc. Big AI helped themselves to was just… there. Public. Not free from copyright but still not paywalled.

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Post by BizarreByte »

Forgeties79 wrote: post #122
newscracker wrote: post #113

This may be a situation where revealing a solution may end up harming it. For those who use iOS and other Apple OSes, I learned of this recently released free Safari extension called Litterbox that allows looking at one post on x.com. [1]: https://andadinosaur.com/launch-litterbox

People really need to just not visit it. You don’t need to browse Twitter to be on top of current events. Anything posted there will be available elsewhere within minutes (and hopefully it will have been vetted somewhat)

Who uses twitter for current events? I’m there for extremely niche hobby related posts.

Re: XCancel service is suspended until further notice

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Post by bakies »

simianparrot wrote: post #151
jm4 wrote: post #125

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I love how the content belongs to them when someone else reposts it but it belongs to the user if the content is illegal. Such a double standard with these social media and AI companies. Why do we put up with it?

Did the users of X consent to XCancel copying their posts to their servers?

i just screenshotted this comment without your consent

Re: XCancel service is suspended until further notice

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Post by ImJamal »

It just feels like every social media site is login-walling public posts. I can't think of a major social media site (reddit, Instagram, FB, Twitter, etc) that doesn't do this to varying degrees. I can only think of minor sites (bluesky, truth social, etc) that allow access.

It feels like an end of an era.

Re: XCancel service is suspended until further notice

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Post by PxldLtd »

rolymath wrote: post #156
Forgeties79 wrote: post #122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People really need to just not visit it. You don’t need to browse Twitter to be on top of current events. Anything posted there will be available elsewhere within minutes (and hopefully it will have been vetted somewhat)

I mean, you clearly don't use Twitter if you think that's how it's used.

I don't use twitter but it feels like a platform for bothering terminally-online celebrities

Re: XCancel service is suspended until further notice

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Post by embedding-shape »

rich_sasha wrote: post #161
zqwt3k wrote: post #109

Thanks Elon, now we know that scraping is illegal! Very good to clarify that for future proceedings against the AI thieves.

I wonder what legal gymnastics are needed for "I can scrape anything off the web ignoring copyright and build a product from this, but you can’t even display what’s on my webpage elsewhere”. Perhaps that is it in fact. The act of protecting it from scraping means you object. 99% of the blogged contents etc. Big AI helped themselves to was just… there. Public. Not free from copyright but still not paywalled.

Transformation.

Taking something someone else made and showing it as-is, bypassing their own restrictions: No no.

Taking something someone else made, modify it or use parts of it in some bigger thing or completely change it: Fine, if you have money and/or run a company

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Post by zahlman »

angoragoats wrote: post #153
throwatdem12311 wrote: post #145

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That’s not what free speech is.

Yes, it is. It seems self-evident to me that the speech on Twitter is more free when it isn't behind a login wall. How could it not be? If you'd like to provide an actual counter-argument, I'd be happy to consider it.

> Freedom of speech is a principle that supports the freedom of an individual or a community to articulate their opinions and ideas without fear of retaliation, censorship, or legal sanction.

Nobody is being censored by the inability of a third party to act as a parallel distribution channel. Nor does freedom of speech have anything to do with entitlement to an audience. No website infringes upon freedom of speech by having a paywall on UGC, as neither the contributors nor readers are worse off than if the site didn't exist.

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Post by forestingfisher »

pluc wrote: post #104
rob74 wrote: post #99

Maybe instead of trying to get rid of services that provide a more convenient access to X to non-logged-in users, they should realize that there is a real market behind these services - users that will likely never sign up to X, but who want to read/watch some content without the incessant nagging and limitations that X subjects non-logged-in users to?

Reddit says hello

And Reddit has also started blocking signed out users in my region.

Re: XCancel service is suspended until further notice

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Post by amiga386 »

zImPatrick wrote: post #132
amiga386 wrote: post #119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Indeed, the shitter authors recommended you buy a bundle of Twitter accounts with 2FA details when setting up your own instance, to avoid getting rate-limited. There are millions of accounts for sale, roughly $0.10 per account. https://hstockplus.com/accounts/twitter-x-accounts?sortBy=pr...

This wasn‘t recommended officially by the authors, right? I saw it on someone‘s codeberg fork but not on the official repo

Sure, let's say shitter's authors: https://codeberg.org/mv12star/shitter/wiki/Creating-session-...
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