Nike exits the S&P 100 after 18 years and a $200B market-cap wipeout
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Re: Nike exits the S&P 100 after 18 years and a $200B market-cap wipeout
#2Sneakerbots killed it for everyone.
Priced out the demand IMO too early.
But also, people only have 2 feet.
Re: Nike exits the S&P 100 after 18 years and a $200B market-cap wipeout
#3Sneakerbots killed it for everyone. Priced out the demand IMO too early. But also, people only have 2 feet.
> But also, people only have 2 feet.
There's more to athletic wear than shoes. Competition like Lululemon, Vuori, Athleta, etc. suggest to me that Nike didn't expand their business broadly enough.
Re: Nike exits the S&P 100 after 18 years and a $200B market-cap wipeout
#4Sneakerbots killed it for everyone. Priced out the demand IMO too early. But also, people only have 2 feet.
> Sneakerbots killed it for everyone
Ultimately I think artificial scarcity/limited production for products offered online is a futile and erroneous venture. The bots exist because the product is valuable. The product is valuable because it's artificially limited.
Re: Nike exits the S&P 100 after 18 years and a $200B market-cap wipeout
#5I thought Nike had a good thing going for a while, they were able to sell cheap lower end shoes but had some good brands that stayed a little higher status.
But where the hell have they been, as other athletic companies have taken off with better synthetic fabric, nike hasn't increased in quality. Their marketing is particularly weird, making some interesting choices.
All in all, it seems the company has been badly run the last ten years.
Re: Nike exits the S&P 100 after 18 years and a $200B market-cap wipeout
#6Lots of bad marketing moves by Nike - wonder which middle management genius' idea it was to put that big ass poster right on the facade of a historic building, if anyone remembers.
And their manufacturing quality has gone down the drain. Their sneakers fall apart in months while German brand sneakers still manage to retain their quality.
Re: Nike exits the S&P 100 after 18 years and a $200B market-cap wipeout
#7They are welcome to make stuff that nobody wants.
Weird designs, made poorly and disintegrating in months.
But then the share price drops.
ie: the market capitalisation drops.
They then have to pay more money to borrow.
Fewer investors are interested in giving them money.
The business spirals into irrelevance like Ken Olsen's Digital Equipment Corporation.
Restructuring happens
Employees lose jobs.
Restructuring happens again and again and again.
Employees lose jobs, more jobs and still more jobs.
Unpaid suppliers go bankrupt.
Finally they shut down and become an irrelevance like Nike, 777 Partners, DEC, BioXcel Therapeutics, Lycos, First Brands Group, Yahoo.
Re: Nike exits the S&P 100 after 18 years and a $200B market-cap wipeout
#8Nike's destruction over the past 5 years was really surprised and until I read up about the whole "direct to consumer" fiasco it really helped me understand another trend I was a bit confused about.
About 2-3 years, it felt like, out of nowhere everyone was wearing Hoka and On brand sneakers. In my entire life it felt like the Nike/Adidas duopoly was unbreakable, and then it felt suddenly that Hoka was everywhere.
While Hoka probably executed extremely well, I imagine it was an incredibly lucky position Hoka found themselves in when all those retailers had to replace Nike with something. Maybe even allbirds would be in a better position today had they launched 3-4 years later.
Edit: I just looked it up and it seems both Hoka and On were founded before Allbirds. Seems allbirds imploded (~2021), just as Nike was ceding all their retail space (also around 2021). Had they had another year, maybe they wouldn't have had to pivot into an AI datacenter company.
Re: Nike exits the S&P 100 after 18 years and a $200B market-cap wipeout
#9I'll just toss in 2c I've seen elsewhere: The brand got diluted like Burberry
Re: Nike exits the S&P 100 after 18 years and a $200B market-cap wipeout
#10Personal anecdote I treated myself last year to some Nikes (Vaporflys) because they looked suave on a friend's feet..
Did 180km of training, maybe 5 weeks worth, and the soles utterly shredded. Couldn't put my foot down level, corners of the soles completely gone.
Shoe store said that's what they're designed to do, no refund.
Cost me about $2AUD per km. But it'll cost Nike a bit more than that.