Signal still uses proprietary blob and uses google/apple service for notifications. Use molly.im instead which has solved these problems.
Registration without a phone number on Signal will use zero-knowledge proofs
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Re: Registration without a phone number on Signal will use zero-knowledge proofs
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Signal is there for power and control, not for its users, otherwise they would welcome the usage of third party clients, and generally, encourage decentralisation measures like self hosting, federation and account portability. Yep, they have nice engineering blog posts, they are also US-incorporated, extensively centralised in AWS and subject to the cloud act, which together negates, or largely diminishes claims abou…
Does the perfect messaging tool exist (100% e2ee encrypted and decentralized and open)?
Re: Registration without a phone number on Signal will use zero-knowledge proofs
#123Signal needs to release all the infra automation code behind their backend. How they setup and manage it all should not be secret. It also makes it easy to rebuild if for some reason they are compromised. They've ghosted multiple people about this question. There's no reason a 501(c)(3) shouldn't release it.
I’m not sure their tax status is the justification your argument needs.
Re: Registration without a phone number on Signal will use zero-knowledge proofs
#124Earlier quoted context omitted.
Signal is there for power and control, not for its users, otherwise they would welcome the usage of third party clients, and generally, encourage decentralisation measures like self hosting, federation and account portability. Yep, they have nice engineering blog posts, they are also US-incorporated, extensively centralised in AWS and subject to the cloud act, which together negates, or largely diminishes claims abou…
Does the perfect messaging tool exist (100% e2ee encrypted and decentralized and open)?
Re: Registration without a phone number on Signal will use zero-knowledge proofs
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Ugh wtf so I need a Google account on Android? That's not going to happen. For an org that pretends to care about privacy you'd imagine there'd be a way to avoid, you know, the biggest privacy invader on the planet. Just allow monero payments or something. Alongside Google play for the sheep that want to use that.
> Just allow monero payments or something. This is the right solution. A one-time payment in crypto, say $5, ought to be enough to prevent spam. That being said, Signal has demonstrated (when presented a warrant) that they do not store phone numbers. If I remember correctly all they stored was an account ID and a UNIX timestamp such as the last login.
Re: Registration without a phone number on Signal will use zero-knowledge proofs
#126Earlier quoted context omitted.
Signal is there for power and control, not for its users, otherwise they would welcome the usage of third party clients, and generally, encourage decentralisation measures like self hosting, federation and account portability. Yep, they have nice engineering blog posts, they are also US-incorporated, extensively centralised in AWS and subject to the cloud act, which together negates, or largely diminishes claims abou…
"Federation freezes the technology" https://signal.org/blog/the-ecosystem-is-moving/
In short, yes, building a standard takes some effort, but that serves your users and to future-proof your solution. Moxie's post boils down to "1- I know better than my users and I don't need input to protocol-design, 2- I'm not willing to put in the effort to standardize and document, 3- I reserve the right to change the deal for whatever reason if I ever feel the need" which is not a good look
Re: Registration without a phone number on Signal will use zero-knowledge proofs
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You can already do that without being a trusted device.
For the longest time, you couldn't. It wasn't until this release I realised that had changed. If it changed before, it wasn't well communicated to me as an Android signal user. I was on beeper and then molly precisely because there was so little traction on changing this. You could install signal fine, but you couldn't QR code or secret phrase mesh it with your android handset. Oddly, iPad meshed fine with iPhone or…
If I’m not fully mistaken, I checked for the combination of iPhone as main device/Android tablet as iPad-like second device sometime in the past six months, at most since the beginning of the year, and it wasn’t possible (unlike phone + iPad as tablet, which seemed quite strange to me).
In any case, it’s a recently released change.
Re: Registration without a phone number on Signal will use zero-knowledge proofs
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> And yes, using a VPN will get you knocked up as well. Well, damn.
For reference: In Britain, and presumably India: "get you knocked up" = "get your door knocked on". In the US: "get you knocked up" = "get you pregnant".
Source : I'm British
Re: Registration without a phone number on Signal will use zero-knowledge proofs
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'Apple' was a metaphor to Newton. 'Open'AI was meant as a promise; one that they've since broke both to some of their founders as well to the general populace. Reminding people of that broken promise doesn't seem that wild.
> 'Apple' was a metaphor to Newton “Apple” was a non-intimidating name that would appear early in the phone book. It had nothing to do with Newton, that logo came after the name. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Apple_Inc . > According to Wozniak, Jobs proposed the name “Apple Computer” when he had just come back from Robert Friedland's All-One Farm in Oregon. Jobs told Walter Isaacson that he was "on one of…