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Why is Google still serving dodgy ads?

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Re: Why is Google still serving dodgy ads?

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Google itself serves similar ads for its own services in all its properties. I've been “critically low” on google storage space for several years now, and every google app prompts and notifies and nags about it on every launch.

This is untrue and you have to be at least 80%

Re: Why is Google still serving dodgy ads?

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They can be doing fine at AI models but not so well with AI revenue. Although I am curious if they are not worried and playing the long game confident that their distribution will eventually help them catch up (and worst case they own some of Anthropic). But obviously Anthropic and OpenAI have their own distribution now too.

> but not so well with AI revenue Nobody is doing well enough with AI revenue ATM ( https://isaiprofitable.com/ ). At the moment it is probably more about market share of users, that is where the investment capital will need to be clawed back from when it starts to be called back (or replacement money will need to come from if the investment cycle simply stops giving generously).

Love this. Can we also have an environmental cost calculator somehow?

Re: Why is Google still serving dodgy ads?

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Liability is kind of wild and the fact that “the internet” washes it all away is wilder still. In my state, which perhaps takes liability too far in the other direction, if I serve sober you a single beer, you proceed to visit a second bar, have ten shots of tequila in an hour, and kill a man driving home - I share equal liability as the tequila bar. Perhaps there is a middle ground in this world where a firm that ma…

(Premise: it isn't 'alcohol and drugs'; it is 'drugs'. Alcohol is a drug, and while we are at it: a powerful one.) The reason for that is that you've been serving a hard drug to a customer. Don't do that if you cannot bear the responsibility (liability). In order to bear the liability, the price has to go up, including perhaps a safe escort home of the drug user, but of course that would be too expensive/socialist/au…

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Re: Why is Google still serving dodgy ads?

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> "Abort the author" Shame that was untrue. > What I don't get is why haven't they shut it down Likely just because it's profitable enough. If nothing else, that seems to be the #1 guiding principle.

Doh, too late to edit the typo.

I actually thought that you were quoting from the book, as example of how it was not genuine. LOL.

Re: Why is Google still serving dodgy ads?

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Yeah, but that also says to Google that their methods are successful. That makes my skin crawl.

(Shrug) The creators need to get paid one way or another. Do you want them to start running their own commercials, as if sponsored segments aren't bad enough?

Would that be worse than what we've got now?

Re: Why is Google still serving dodgy ads?

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I'm not the same guy but I can verify that the advert for the impossible micro-evaporative cooler quoted impossible performance capabilities. YouTube adverts frequently contain fraudulent, misleading information. It appears that no law is being broken.

I can believe that, I'm just here to point out that some of the laws being not-broken are the laws of thermodnamics. You can cool a room cheaply with dry ice, for instance. There are tricks.

I get what you're saying, that it's "thermodynamics violation OR trick". But if you're checking whether the ad is lying at face value, you exclude tricks like dry ice or precooling.

Re: Why is Google still serving dodgy ads?

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Adsense has been a nightmare for us. They have been putting thousands of scam adverts on our website for some time. Think "you have been looking at xxx and must pay a $100 fine" type popup nonsense. Hosted on the following websites: azurestaticapps.net azurewebsites.net herokuapp.com ondigitalocean.app digitaloceanspaces.com netlify.app Google doesn't allow you to block these domains, because they consider them "TLDs…

The problem is the scummy adsense ads don't hurt Google's reputation. Outside the techie crowd people don't know the ads are from Google.

It does in the sense that they're losing business, as people describe in this thread. But I get your point, Google seems to be enjoying the profits more than the harm to their reputation. If it gets bad enough, maybe they'll rethink.

Re: Why is Google still serving dodgy ads?

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Someone who has spent $100M+ on Google Ads explained to me that Google is doing everything possible to juice their revenue right now, in ways they've never seen before. Seems like two things 1) Google is losing at AI and Sundar wants to mask this 2) AI is going to destroy their ad business and they want to get while the getting is good.

>Google is doing everything possible to juice their revenue right now, in ways they've never seen before My experience confirms this: many years ago I had a website banned from serving Google Ads. They said my pages didn't have enough content. Then a competitor started showing ads on the exact same type of pages where I had previously been able to serve them. So I tried getting my website approved again and -- surpri…

Yeah they accept websites without content nowadays, which I think should be the case either way.

What is not okay is them pushing a huge amount of ads into website, constantly asking you to enable auto-ads and vignette ads and what-not.

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