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Fable 5.1 Solves the Cyphral Distich, a 370-year-old cipher

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Re: Fable 5.1 Solves the Cyphral Distich, a 370-year-old cipher

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Post by sidewndr46 »

altmanaltman wrote: post #37
aogaili wrote: post #28

It is cool. But how do we know that nobody solved that problem before and it was somewhere in the training data? some blog, or some book or whatever?

Its a bit sus since there doesn't really seem to be much discourse on this either. Like okay, it solved the puzzle but the puzzle was just a key cipher with plain text? And how is this verified or even matter in terms of what it reveals? Seems more like a marketing fun post than anything susbtantial. They published this on 31 aug and nobody in that community cared and no news covered how this 300+ years mystery was s…

Conversely, the cipher could be so boring that no one in any academic circle bothered publishing on it.

Re: Fable 5.1 Solves the Cyphral Distich, a 370-year-old cipher

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Post by Yizahi »

jonas21 wrote: post #21
Retr0id wrote: post #2

> I told it to look online at some of Fable’s strongest feats, especially the math problems it has solved, and that something like this should be easy in comparison. Fascinating. I wonder if you could show "fake news" to a weaker model and get it to be more ambitious in its attempted solutions, even if it's not fundamentally any smarter.

Career path: software engineer -> prompt engineer -> positive affirmation engineer

-> AI Morale, Welfare and Recreation Officer (let's be real here, heh)

Re: Fable 5.1 Solves the Cyphral Distich, a 370-year-old cipher

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Post by elahieh »

Jun8 wrote: post #26

Next up: Kryptos part 4 ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kryptos )

Unfortunately, the totality of the evidence very much indicates that Sanborn went "buck wild" with the enciphering, he made mistake(s), or both. So this is very much in line with the Chaocipher challenge of 1990. Nice little earner for some people though.

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Post by _blk »

taberiand wrote: post #38

Anytime I get worried about where AI might be headed, I think about how Climate Change is now on its way like an out of control freight train headed straight for us, and I worry about AI a little less. I doubt it's going to do anything to us that we're not already doing to ourselves

What makes you say that on climate change? I was still prophesied ice ages when in high school, then 12ft water increases and sunk Maldives in university and we still have roughly the same weather.

Re: Fable 5.1 Solves the Cyphral Distich, a 370-year-old cipher

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Post by SwellJoe »

taberiand wrote: post #38

Anytime I get worried about where AI might be headed, I think about how Climate Change is now on its way like an out of control freight train headed straight for us, and I worry about AI a little less. I doubt it's going to do anything to us that we're not already doing to ourselves

The gas generators Elon Musk is illegally running 24/7 to run Colossus 2 (and, AI power usage in general, though some are more destructive than others) might contribute to the climate situation, though.

Re: Fable 5.1 Solves the Cyphral Distich, a 370-year-old cipher

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Post by CamperBob2 »

jonas21 wrote: post #21
Retr0id wrote: post #2

> I told it to look online at some of Fable’s strongest feats, especially the math problems it has solved, and that something like this should be easy in comparison. Fascinating. I wonder if you could show "fake news" to a weaker model and get it to be more ambitious in its attempted solutions, even if it's not fundamentally any smarter.

Career path: software engineer -> prompt engineer -> positive affirmation engineer

    Pygmalion panderer

Re: Fable 5.1 Solves the Cyphral Distich, a 370-year-old cipher

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Post by trallnag »

redfloatplane wrote: post #3

A very neat problem and result. I often find myself swinging between "It's so over" and "We're so back" - some days I roll out of bed thinking I could have Claude solve some random unproven OEIS sequence before breakfast; other days, I wake up in a cold sweat worried about the fate of humanity and what the world might look like in a decade. I think it's that I don't have a very high p(doom) or p(utopia), and I don't…

We have always been back

Re: Fable 5.1 Solves the Cyphral Distich, a 370-year-old cipher

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Post by SwellJoe »

lowbloodsugar wrote: post #33
redfloatplane wrote: post #3

A very neat problem and result. I often find myself swinging between "It's so over" and "We're so back" - some days I roll out of bed thinking I could have Claude solve some random unproven OEIS sequence before breakfast; other days, I wake up in a cold sweat worried about the fate of humanity and what the world might look like in a decade. I think it's that I don't have a very high p(doom) or p(utopia), and I don't…

I have a very high p(doom \/ utopia) so pretty much feeling like I won’t have to worry about the future.

Given how little effort has gone into addressing climate change, doom seems more likely to me, but I doubt it'll be the autocomplete machines that do us in.
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