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I'm being cyberattacked by Tesla, Inc

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Re: I'm being cyberattacked by Tesla, Inc

#31
post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I thought about trying this, but MPIC makes it very very very difficult (the round-robin has some geolocation magic baked in regarding what server it connects you to).

Out of curiosity, how is MPIC relevant? Not that familiar with it, but CNAME would resolve to your server regardless no?

pool-ntp.tesla.com --CNAME--> pool.ntp.org --GeoDNS--> thousands of possible servers, biased heavily by user location

Re: I'm being cyberattacked by Tesla, Inc

#32
post #17

CNAME'ing pool-ntp.tesla.com to something they do not control is already quite risky as it would allow someone to e.g. request pool-ntp.tesla.com certificate though it might take quite a few tries.

Wouldn't the same apply to pool.ntp.org then?

Maybe running a web server on the same IP as an NTP server is a bad idea.

Re: I'm being cyberattacked by Tesla, Inc

#33

This seems like a gross exaggeration. This happens EVERY day to EVERY web server out there. I have a personal site that gets thousands of requests per day from bots. Running a public server (like NTP) means you will get tons of strange requests. Moreso if you run a web server on the same IP because bots will scrape certificate transparency logs. The entire IPv4 space is scanned continuously. This may sound harsh, but…

I'm aware how much crap there is on the Internet, I just think the specific nature of this (legitimate commercial vuln scanner thinks I'm Tesla) is funny

Re: I'm being cyberattacked by Tesla, Inc

#34
post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Out of curiosity, how is MPIC relevant? Not that familiar with it, but CNAME would resolve to your server regardless no?

pool-ntp.tesla.com --CNAME--> pool.ntp.org --GeoDNS--> thousands of possible servers, biased heavily by user location

Oops should have RTFA before commenting, I thought the CNAME was only to your servers.

Re: I'm being cyberattacked by Tesla, Inc

#37

I would assume the fastest way to actually make this stop would be to setup a bunch of honeypot exploits, trigger their detection and someone will figure out what they did wrong. Other than not, with these huge companies you have 0 recourse.

I did something like this a few weeks ago on my photography site: https://robertmay.photography/journal/meta-has-tried-to-scra...

Meta not only hasn't noticed, but is currently sending about 11 requests per second to my site. I've also seemingly trapped one of those TV proxy scraper nets as I'm getting absolutely hammered by requests from all over the place now. I get maybe 10 legit visitors per day, and I'm currently blocking 406,787 IPs from things that have fallen into my honeypot.

I've tweaked my site to return empty status responses a configurable amount of time but the traffic has been so intense that Traefik is now struggling, so I'm going to have to figure out something else. I was returning over-capacity errors and I think that was a mistake, I've swapped to 400 range status codes now. I don't want to use Cloudflare so I'm not sure what to do after this.

The people at these companies are either incompetent or malicious.

Re: I'm being cyberattacked by Tesla, Inc

#38
post #17

CNAME'ing pool-ntp.tesla.com to something they do not control is already quite risky as it would allow someone to e.g. request pool-ntp.tesla.com certificate though it might take quite a few tries.

Wouldn't the same apply to pool.ntp.org then? Maybe running a web server on the same IP as an NTP server is a bad idea.

a .tesla.com certificate might well enable more shenanigans than a .pool.ntp.org cert.

Re: I'm being cyberattacked by Tesla, Inc

#39

This seems like a gross exaggeration. This happens EVERY day to EVERY web server out there. I have a personal site that gets thousands of requests per day from bots. Running a public server (like NTP) means you will get tons of strange requests. Moreso if you run a web server on the same IP because bots will scrape certificate transparency logs. The entire IPv4 space is scanned continuously. This may sound harsh, but…

You don’t think there’s a difference between “hackers try to attack everything“ and “Tesla decided that I personally need to be tested as one of their systems due to a lazy misconfiguration“ are different?

Re: I'm being cyberattacked by Tesla, Inc

#40

This seems like a gross exaggeration. This happens EVERY day to EVERY web server out there. I have a personal site that gets thousands of requests per day from bots. Running a public server (like NTP) means you will get tons of strange requests. Moreso if you run a web server on the same IP because bots will scrape certificate transparency logs. The entire IPv4 space is scanned continuously. This may sound harsh, but…

I'm aware how much crap there is on the Internet, I just think the specific nature of this (legitimate commercial vuln scanner thinks I'm Tesla) is funny

It does bring attention to: how many other organizations are doing this?

Tesla is a large enterprise.

They almost certainly subscribe to some overpriced SaaS garbage which is manned by offshore drones who by definition do not care because they're not paid enough to care.

Unfortunately this isn't the 80s anymore where you can ring up a system administrator at a university and get a human on the other end.

That said: cool looking website btw.

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