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Re: Data collected by cars and sold to third parties

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1. Android Automotive is run by Google, so that entire argument goes out the window immediately, because Google 2. Car companies bypass CarPlay/Android Auto with their own head units with software that executes before the projection software does.

Android Auto and Android Automotive are not the same thing.

Re: Data collected by cars and sold to third parties

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I posted a flavor of this comment on an article a few months ago, but it's relevant here: I have a seven year old Volkswagen, not financed. I'm security conscious and made sure to disable all the data collection I could find in the companion app before removing my account, turn off remote access services, dig through the infotainment to turn off what I could, etc. Last year I requested a Carfax on it, and one of the…

Couldn't you put some sort of faraday cage around the antenna?

Re: Data collected by cars and sold to third parties

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How can this be stopped, from a technical perspective? Can I wrap the comms in a Faraday cage? Obviously it would be better to have this action be illegal. But with legal privacy protections eroding in the US and other countries, it seems prudent to have a better understanding of the systems involved in the immoral surveillance.

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Re: Data collected by cars and sold to third parties

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I posted a flavor of this comment on an article a few months ago, but it's relevant here: I have a seven year old Volkswagen, not financed. I'm security conscious and made sure to disable all the data collection I could find in the companion app before removing my account, turn off remote access services, dig through the infotainment to turn off what I could, etc. Last year I requested a Carfax on it, and one of the…

What did you do, or what are you going to do? That would piss me off until i found the antenna and broke it

Re: Data collected by cars and sold to third parties

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I've had good luck with pulling service manuals, finding the telematics antenna connectors, and unplugging them. It's popular to pull the telematics module fuse, but that typically disables internal microphones and GPS that are used by android auto and carplay. This severely degrades features spouses expect to just work. The antenna pulling is a much lighter touch.

I wonder if this increases or reduces the value of the car???

If your buyer is an institution like Carmax or similar, lower.

If your buyer is the end owner, probably increase a little bit unless they are surveillancemaxxing.

Re: Data collected by cars and sold to third parties

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Much like owning a home without an HOA attached, it is becoming harder and harder to meet this requirement. It also seems to conflict with `right-to-repair` laws if the capability is legally required.

>Much like owning a home without an HOA attached, it is becoming harder and harder to meet this requirement. The near universal proliferation of owner's associations and management groups and whatnot for developments larger than ~1ac (the EPA threshold, some states/towns have lower) is something you can lay at the feet of the Clean Water Act and it's implementation and precedents over the following decades. The exact…

I believe it was Strongtowns reporting a few months back that HOAs are generally being driven by developers, the only folks with (a) land to build in bulk; (b) capital, relationships, and experience to get fully through permitting in bulk; (c) building a substantial fraction of SFH.
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