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Houthis used Claude Code to develop missile guidance software: Anthropic

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Re: Houthis used Claude Code to develop missile guidance software: Anthropic

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Post by dylan604 »

quikoa wrote: post #18
pesfandiar wrote: post #16

They probably used Microsoft Windows and Google Chrome too.

Quite a bit harder or even impossible to prevent software being used illegally that runs on clients than server side services no?

or even paid for. They didn't say what version of Windows. It could be XP. There's still over 5 million computers running XP according to simple web search. I haven't touched Windows not much later than XP, so not really sure of the current state of running pirated Windows. Either way, GP's point is really lacking some basic reasoning

Re: Houthis used Claude Code to develop missile guidance software: Anthropic

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Post by morkalork »

Eventually these products are going to be uselessly nerfed to anyone studying above a highschool level. Can't ask about advanced biology, you might be engineering a virus. Can't ask about chemistry because you might be manufacturing drugs. Can't ask about physics, navigation etc. because you could be building missiles.

Re: Houthis used Claude Code to develop missile guidance software: Anthropic

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Post by Simulacra »

morkalork wrote: post #24

Eventually these products are going to be uselessly nerfed to anyone studying above a highschool level. Can't ask about advanced biology, you might be engineering a virus. Can't ask about chemistry because you might be manufacturing drugs. Can't ask about physics, navigation etc. because you could be building missiles.

Which is why I think very soon there will be development of dark AI, think of it as darknet AI. You can ask anything and it will tell you. It's only a matter of time. How to make a bomb? Sure, here's a shopping list for your local hardware store…

Re: Houthis used Claude Code to develop missile guidance software: Anthropic

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Post by dylan604 »

tkel wrote: post #14

Okay but when it's US "warfighters" making missiles it's good? Pretty hypocritical that isn't in the the "threat report" too. > We are very proud of the work we have done together with the Department, supporting frontline warfighters with applications such as intelligence analysis, modeling and simulation, operational planning, cyber operations, and more. https://www.anthropic.com/news/where-stand-department-war

When it's a US company operating under US regulations, yes, it is quite different. This is the point of things like ITAR. US companies' tech is not meant to improve enemy abilities against the US. Using US companies' tech to improve US abilities is expected. I don't think that's hypocritical for the US government to have that expectation

Re: Houthis used Claude Code to develop missile guidance software: Anthropic

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Post by bitexploder »

lerchmo wrote: post #3

I can’t deploy a toy project to a vm without triggering the classifier.

You just have to Manhattan Project it. Fable will happily work on almost any piece in isolation. The hardest boundaries are domain specific terms you just can’t avoid. It can be tricky. I have found a way around it mostly.

Or just use DeepSeek. I have had Flash 4.1 with Ghidra MCP going since 4.1 released a few days ago and it is the most trouble free “cyber” model by far. It is also very strong. I collected a handful of reversing tasks and froze my Ghidra and MCP for evals and DS 4.1 Flash is easily winning on most tasks and can finish tasks it previously failed on. Anyone can reverse software and find vulnerabilities now. Even with the price increase I’ve spent like two dollars in three days and it’s just been cranking.

Re: Houthis used Claude Code to develop missile guidance software: Anthropic

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Post by TheMayorOfDunce »

Simulacra wrote: post #25
morkalork wrote: post #24

Eventually these products are going to be uselessly nerfed to anyone studying above a highschool level. Can't ask about advanced biology, you might be engineering a virus. Can't ask about chemistry because you might be manufacturing drugs. Can't ask about physics, navigation etc. because you could be building missiles.

Which is why I think very soon there will be development of dark AI, think of it as darknet AI. You can ask anything and it will tell you. It's only a matter of time. How to make a bomb? Sure, here's a shopping list for your local hardware store…

there is already a "darknet AI" site on Tor. I don't recall its name, but I found it on a list published by Sam Bent, a Youtuber who talks frequently about his experience as a former darknet vendor of moonshine (seriously).

Re: Houthis used Claude Code to develop missile guidance software: Anthropic

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Post by bitexploder »

Simulacra wrote: post #25
morkalork wrote: post #24

Eventually these products are going to be uselessly nerfed to anyone studying above a highschool level. Can't ask about advanced biology, you might be engineering a virus. Can't ask about chemistry because you might be manufacturing drugs. Can't ask about physics, navigation etc. because you could be building missiles.

Which is why I think very soon there will be development of dark AI, think of it as darknet AI. You can ask anything and it will tell you. It's only a matter of time. How to make a bomb? Sure, here's a shopping list for your local hardware store…

It is entirely reasonable to run a model like DS Flash 4.1 locally. Not easily. But feasible. If you drop down 100b - 200b models they are far more feasible.

DS Flash 4.1 is close to Opus 5. Beats Opus 4.8 in all of my little evals. You can abliterate local models. The genie is out of the bottle. There is no going back. This is why you see Anthropic and others talking about slowing down the frontier. Because they realize that you can’t even stop local users at this point. We basically have the equivalent of frontier models within reach on local hardware that cost less than $10k

It isn’t even a matter of time. You can just do it right now if you know how and have a bit of hardware.

e: this raises serious questions for me btw. The most obvious lever is controlling hardware. Controlling models and their capability is over. Controlling access to models is hard. Controlling access to GPU and fast RAM is more feasible. In 3-5 years every nation will understand how to distill, build, and abliterate safeties in models. This technology is fundamentally not difficult to work with.

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