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Random people calling 911 on other people filming them is a staple of Youtube; banks, coffee store workers, hairdressers, most especially restaurant managers. I don't know why anyone would expect technicians from Flock to be different. It's worse for the technician in this case, because he really was being followed --- that's not unlawful but it's unnerving. You'd think from the response that this was like the VP/Sal…
> it's just some installer dude probably making $65k/year to climb poles and fasten cameras I find it hard to be persuaded by the salary idea. A hitman who works for $100 is just as bad as one who works for $10,000. In fact other immoral activities work the opposite, bizarrely (a whore who works for $100 is worse than one who works for $10,000)
Random people calling 911 on other people filming them is a staple of Youtube; banks, coffee store workers, hairdressers, most especially restaurant managers. I don't know why anyone would expect technicians from Flock to be different. It's worse for the technician in this case, because he really was being followed --- that's not unlawful but it's unnerving. You'd think from the response that this was like the VP/Sal…
Isn't that exactly what Flock are doing to tens of thousands of people a day? So why the double-standard.
I actually agree it is unnerving, I just don't agree that one should be held to a different standard than the other.
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I just don't like moral distortions. Is YC in control of Flock or responsible for their choices? Who are "them", what are we ignorant about and why is it Marxism?
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Privacy for me but not for thee - Flock
A really interesting experiment would be to give the public access to all of Flock's data, in real time. I say we try it and see how that goes.
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>look at all the high rep accounts that immediately defend it As opposed to all the new accounts (uncharitably: sockpuppet accounts) that are criticizing it?
>sockpuppet accounts 10+ years of posting doesn't give you a pass to skirt the HN guidelines. Please don't post insinuations about astroturfing, shilling, brigading, foreign agents, and the like. It degrades discussion and is usually mistaken. If you're worried about abuse, email hn@ycombinator.com and we'll look at the data. Them's the... guidelines. Please do better.
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The response is stronger because your hairdressers and baristas aren't actively providing a service for surveillance as part of their work. The bar should be higher for a company that's ostensibly being trusted to provide a law enforcement tool that's prone to misuse than for providing beverages or cosmetology.
>The response is stronger because your hairdressers and baristas aren't actively providing a service for surveillance as part of their work. Should other law enforcement contractors also be subject to the same higher standard? For instance, should dell get extra flak if one of their contractors called 911, because they were installing PCs for a police department? If not, this just seems like a way of applying a doubl…
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In Florida, we just talked to our reps and got them banned from the entire state. It was easy and didn’t require protests at all.
Florida is a model democracy that all states should look up to.
Random people calling 911 on other people filming them is a staple of Youtube; banks, coffee store workers, hairdressers, most especially restaurant managers. I don't know why anyone would expect technicians from Flock to be different. It's worse for the technician in this case, because he really was being followed --- that's not unlawful but it's unnerving. You'd think from the response that this was like the VP/Sal…
This isn't how world works.