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Re: Flock worker calls police on reporter filming public camera installation

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Post by nkrisc »

howmayiannoyyou wrote: post #35

Flock has solved crimes in my state, including a few horrendous violent crimes. We forget US society was configured (imperfectly) to allow families to raise their children in stability and safety, with guardrails around both sides of liberty. Surveillance has a legit role in protecting communities and their families - especially the most vulnerable. Willing to be most of the Flock hate crowd doesn't have kids walking…

We could solve even more crimes if the police were allowed to install cameras in everyone's homes.

Re: Flock worker calls police on reporter filming public camera installation

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Post by card_zero »

HNhelpsFlock wrote: post #73
card_zero wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How about the "it’s them" part?

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I just don't like moral distortions. Is YC in control of Flock or responsible for their choices? Who are "them", what are we ignorant about and why is it Marxism?

Re: Flock worker calls police on reporter filming public camera installation

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Post by simpaticoder »

stickfigure wrote: post #76
gleezard wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wait til you find out what money does to people.

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I don't think that's true. The anti-flock sentiment ranges, of course, but it's pretty widespread. The idea of living in a society that is highly surveilled at all times, where that data is processed by AI to determine suspicious behavior, when the panopticon is abused by those with access to it -- this is not an idea with widespread appeal.

Re: Flock worker calls police on reporter filming public camera installation

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Post by pwython »

HeWhoLurksLate wrote: post #61
howmayiannoyyou wrote: post #35

Flock has solved crimes in my state, including a few horrendous violent crimes. We forget US society was configured (imperfectly) to allow families to raise their children in stability and safety, with guardrails around both sides of liberty. Surveillance has a legit role in protecting communities and their families - especially the most vulnerable. Willing to be most of the Flock hate crowd doesn't have kids walking…

There is also a large difference between local surveillance (home/business/area CCTV), public surveillance (openly accessible cameras like traffic cams), and dragnet surveillance- I generally trust my local police precincts but don't like the fact that the alphabet soup of federal agencies has warrantless access to track me on the way to and from church or work or Facebook marketplace deals

Honest question: If the feds were actually tracking you on your way to church, how does that impact you? Is that a real fear you have?

Re: Flock worker calls police on reporter filming public camera installation

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Post by functionmouse »

stickfigure wrote: post #76
gleezard wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wait til you find out what money does to people.

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It seems like it comes down to whether or not you're addicted to Fox News. My grandmother likes Flock, but nobody else I know does.

Re: Flock worker calls police on reporter filming public camera installation

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Post by tekla »

WarmWash wrote: post #33
LastTrain wrote: post #27

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If the they didn't pitch the massive surveillance and data capturing aspects they wouldn’t have got the funding.

Blantantly making stuff up is a bad look, they were founded as an HOA (private neighborhood) security service. >Flock’s camera and accompanying software is geared towards private neighborhoods and neighborhood associations looking to decrease petty crime.[1] [1] https://www.hypepotamus.com/flock-safety-funding-round-growt...

Doesn't seem to be what their YC Pitch was

https://www.ycombinator.com/companies/flock-safety

> From the moment we started Flock Safety, we had an incredibly clear, boldly audacious mission ... We provide a life-or-death product, a mission-critical system for cities

Re: Flock worker calls police on reporter filming public camera installation

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Post by orangeberrytea »

WarmWash wrote: post #33
LastTrain wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If the they didn't pitch the massive surveillance and data capturing aspects they wouldn’t have got the funding.

Blantantly making stuff up is a bad look, they were founded as an HOA (private neighborhood) security service. >Flock’s camera and accompanying software is geared towards private neighborhoods and neighborhood associations looking to decrease petty crime.[1] [1] https://www.hypepotamus.com/flock-safety-funding-round-growt...

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