Consumers should punish these behaviors fiercely.
LG denies TV spying claims, says tracking and snooping concerns 'not true'
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Re: LG denies TV spying claims, says tracking and snooping concerns 'not true'
#462Texas had a lawsuit against LG that settled in the spring. Sadly with a default of you’re opted in, and you’re presented the option to opt out[1].
As others have pointed out, you’re presented this at the same time as normal ToS. So it’s very confusing to even me what to opt in to use basic TV functionality.
It absolutely feels like a dark pattern.
1 - https://www.texasattorneygeneral.gov/news/releases/attorney-...
Re: LG denies TV spying claims, says tracking and snooping concerns 'not true'
#463Earlier quoted context omitted.
No it doesn’t? They can do all these things just fine over a LAN connection (assuming it routes externally). If you can firewall your LAN - you can also firewall your WiFi.
Except some of the TVs try to connect to unprotected hotspots, or piggyback through ISP's routers' hidden secondary SSIDs. Which even opens people's data and ambient conversations finding their way to the manufacturer or advertisers through war-driving.
name one.
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#464Earlier quoted context omitted.
No it doesn’t? They can do all these things just fine over a LAN connection (assuming it routes externally). If you can firewall your LAN - you can also firewall your WiFi.
“If you can firewall your LAN - you can also firewall your WiFi.” Huh? Your WiFi is (part of) your LAN.
That’s what I’m saying, yes.
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Less time consuming than just ... not connecting a new TV to WiFi? It's pretty straightforward to get dumb behavior out of a modern smart TV as long as you're satisfied with the factory installed firmware version.
Im not sure if you read up on the situation, but the current smart TV's surveillance functions are way beyond what anyone should have to deal with. They scan and connect to near Wifi devices to send data without consent There is communications being done through HDMI. I mean what is it going to take for people to realize that getting smart TV, for any reason, is really dumb.
name a make a model that does this.
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#467Earlier quoted context omitted.
Tom's response: "Sounds good, please don't take offense at me adding https://github.com/furkan-bayrak/lg-tv-blocklist to the PiHole. Can never be too safe, right?"
FWIW, LG will connect to a public DNS and use encryption so a basic PiHole list doesn't help unless you combine it with firewall rules. See the caveats section of that Github link.
Yeah, I went with just the Safe settings for now as I am leaving for the week and didn’t want the rest of the house to have to fix something.
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#468Earlier quoted context omitted.
“If you can firewall your LAN - you can also firewall your WiFi.” Huh? Your WiFi is (part of) your LAN.
That’s what I’m saying, yes.
Ok, I don’t understand your point, then. If a device works locally then you can firewall it and block any nasty stuff phoning home. If it runs everything through the manufacturer’s servers then you can’t firewall it without disabling it entirely.
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#469Earlier quoted context omitted.
That’s what I’m saying, yes.
Ok, I don’t understand your point, then. If a device works locally then you can firewall it and block any nasty stuff phoning home. If it runs everything through the manufacturer’s servers then you can’t firewall it without disabling it entirely.
Read the thread. People are saying ‘if it connects to the LAN it’s safe’.
I’m pointing out safe or not has nothing to do with it being on a LAN or not.
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#470Earlier quoted context omitted.
Ok, I don’t understand your point, then. If a device works locally then you can firewall it and block any nasty stuff phoning home. If it runs everything through the manufacturer’s servers then you can’t firewall it without disabling it entirely.
Read the thread. People are saying ‘if it connects to the LAN it’s safe’. I’m pointing out safe or not has nothing to do with it being on a LAN or not.
I’m completely lost. I’m not talking about safe, I’m talking about how routing everything though a server gives a lot more control to the manufacturer and they’re loathe to give that up.