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Re: Make your first edit to OpenStreetMap

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I once encountered a joke building that was so large, I remember in the magnitude of 500km2, that you couldn’t edit it in the web editor. You had to download a desktop application to delete it. It was in a place of the world that is unlikely to be popular within the OSM community.

Fortunately it's fairly easy to query the database for that kind of thing and a few editors periodically go through the most implausibly-sized common features, so anything too egregious will get noticed eventually . The last time I saw a collection of "biggest objects" for various tags it was mostly things that were just subtly mistagged (e.g., an entire forest being tagged as a single tree) rather than vandalism.

> e.g., an entire forest being tagged as a single tree

If that forest's dominant tree happens to be a quaking aspen then technically speaking it might not have been mistagged.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pando_(tree)

Re: Make your first edit to OpenStreetMap

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Isn’t that a door (haha) opened by our supreme new AI coding overlords: that now it’s possible to take the Every Door source code (it’s on Github), and throw it into a coding agent with the instruction to „improve without breaking functionality“, and with some iterations and human validation that yes, the UX is now indeed better, play the changes back with a PR?

UX is one of the things AI isn’t good at. You can ask it for specific changes but just “make it nicer” is unlikely to work.

Claude Design can help. Fable is pretty good at UI when you narrow down to a specific page or—better—something like a modal, table, etc.

If someone is a user, they'll have specific complaints. Claude Design is more than capable, which can then be fed directly into Claude Code to implement, test, iterate, and ship.

I agree that it lags behind coding and imo the highest leverage area for Anthropic to invest in. Hopefully they do so; UI is consistently one of the main (severe) differentiators between OSS and paid options.

Re: Make your first edit to OpenStreetMap

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There's something a bit weird about OSM. We have the infrastructure and the idea to have a wikipedia-like map. It's insanely cool. But it's super hard to make any edit except through StreetComplete and people get asked the type of bushes they see in their street. I think the biggest priority would be to map all stores, their type and their opening hours. Right now there's nothing more reliable than Google Maps for th…

Every door is more focused towards opening hours. Streetcomplete is indeed alot of 'what type of road is this?'

Re: Make your first edit to OpenStreetMap

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The article describes a case that is a perfect candidate to be automated by LM. You don’t have to have real-world knowledge for that.

Would be interesting to see what involves contributing a real thing that’s not found on the net - a fence, footpath, etc. Or contributing a bus stop.

Re: Make your first edit to OpenStreetMap

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> Do NOT use search results for social media profiles This seems a bit outdated as many restaurants/shops now consider they FB/insta page as their "official" website (or rather lack of).

It's a dumb thing to do too. If you have a website, you control what it says. For a shop or restaurant it's totally fine to just show a nice photo with your name, opening hours, address, and contact details, and just link to whatever social media accounts and reservation/delivery ordering platform you use. It's also the place that will allow you to inform your patrons when big tech deletes your heavily invested in so…

A lot of people today, particularly young people, no longer use the open web in a browser. They only use the social-media walled gardens through phone apps. Even for some newspapers etc. that might have existed first as websites, they use instead the official phone apps. So, a restaurant making its own website is not as important in 2026 as you think.

Re: Make your first edit to OpenStreetMap

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Months behind is not fair. Apps like Komoot, OSMAnd or CoMaps have monthly refresh cycles. Others are shorter and yes there are longer (mostly obscure) update cycles such as apple maps, Uber, https://transportnsw.info/

In my experience, the bigger the app, the longer the update cycle. They likely have a QA and integration process to deal with how osm combines with other sources. Something like osmand is basically just an osm wrapper, so they can be fast.

I think bigger apps are also slowing down updates to prevent vandalism from appearing to a wide number of users.

Re: Make your first edit to OpenStreetMap

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post #96

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It's a dumb thing to do too. If you have a website, you control what it says. For a shop or restaurant it's totally fine to just show a nice photo with your name, opening hours, address, and contact details, and just link to whatever social media accounts and reservation/delivery ordering platform you use. It's also the place that will allow you to inform your patrons when big tech deletes your heavily invested in so…

A lot of people today, particularly young people, no longer use the open web in a browser. They only use the social-media walled gardens through phone apps. Even for some newspapers etc. that might have existed first as websites, they use instead the official phone apps. So, a restaurant making its own website is not as important in 2026 as you think.

I think it's a very sad state of affairs, but I find even myself trusting the Facebook page more than the actual website for many places, since you can see the latest updates on Facebook (and how recent they are), while the website could be completely outdated with no way to tell it.

Re: Make your first edit to OpenStreetMap

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post #94

The article describes a case that is a perfect candidate to be automated by LM. You don’t have to have real-world knowledge for that. Would be interesting to see what involves contributing a real thing that’s not found on the net - a fence, footpath, etc. Or contributing a bus stop.

No. If you're making maps and building a database of facts, I think the possibility of hallucinations is actively harmful.
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