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Re: Make your first edit to OpenStreetMap

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Post by Gigachad »

nradov wrote: post #40
_russross wrote: post #13

I started contributing to OSM recently after a bike trail was built near me. The arial imagery typically takes years to refresh around here so I walked it a few times to capture GPX tracks and then drew the new path. It was exciting to see my contribution percolate out to various apps that depend on OSM, and meanwhile Google and Apple have both ignored my edit suggestions and deny the path exists. So I have a fairly…

In a lot of areas the sidewalks and crosswalks aren't mapped even though they show up clearly on overhead imagery. I try to fill them in when I can, although this should probably be an AI task now.

I highly suspect Apple and Google maps are auto tracing satellite images. Apple maps has perfect coverage of every road marking on their maps that exactly lines up to the satellite images.

I believe most consumers of OSM just discard data like buildings and crosswalks and layer on top auto traced data which has 100% coverage.

Re: Make your first edit to OpenStreetMap

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Post by Gigachad »

nobody42 wrote: post #68

https://streetcomplete.app - basic task-based, on-the-ground, app for Android https://every-door.app - intermediate on-the-ground app for smartphones https://rapideditor.org - AI-assisted mapping in browser https://www.hotosm.org - task-based mapping in browser https://josm.openstreetmap.de - advanced editor for desktop (this post) https://www.comaps.app - actually use the map with ability to make minor changes

I wish Streetcomplete had an ios app. The ios editors are all far too cluttered and hard to use on mobile. I've almost been considering making my own editor like streetcomplete but as a web app so it's cross platform.

Re: Make your first edit to OpenStreetMap

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Post by Gigachad »

mmahemoff wrote: post #75
Gigachad wrote: post #62

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UX is one of the things AI isn’t good at. You can ask it for specific changes but just “make it nicer” is unlikely to work.

“Make it nicer” will lead to unpredictable and controversial changes, likely to clash with the project owner’s vision. The owner would be better off using the LLM as a collaborator, if anything, to decide where to take the design. However, UX can also be improved by some simple heuristics that could be seen as mechanistic by the standards of modern LLMs. Performance and responsiveness, for example, contribute to UX e…

That's real work and requires real skill. The parent comment example prompt just doesn't work.

Re: Make your first edit to OpenStreetMap

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Post by florkbork »

KolmogorovComp wrote: post #17

Is there any software that can take raw footage from 360deg cameras that are now sprolling, identify businesses without websites, opening hours etc, and pre-fill them? With the user only having to validate. A foot-carried google street car if you want.

https://alltheplaces.xyz/ is a better version of this idea - grabs snapshots of structured data where the business has made an effort to publish it.

Street view imagery is better for attributes on the actual street - mapillary did it first, with automated feature extraction for street signs etc, others have followed.

Re: Make your first edit to OpenStreetMap

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Post by choroid »

Gigachad wrote: post #82
nobody42 wrote: post #68

https://streetcomplete.app - basic task-based, on-the-ground, app for Android https://every-door.app - intermediate on-the-ground app for smartphones https://rapideditor.org - AI-assisted mapping in browser https://www.hotosm.org - task-based mapping in browser https://josm.openstreetmap.de - advanced editor for desktop (this post) https://www.comaps.app - actually use the map with ability to make minor changes

I wish Streetcomplete had an ios app. The ios editors are all far too cluttered and hard to use on mobile. I've almost been considering making my own editor like streetcomplete but as a web app so it's cross platform.

There's progress being made on an iOS app for StreetComplete.

https://github.com/streetcomplete/StreetComplete/issues/5421

Re: Make your first edit to OpenStreetMap

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Post by raybb »

senbrow wrote: post #74
raybb wrote: post #55

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I can improve the UI to my taste but if the maintainer doesn't have time/money to maintain a big ol vibe coded PR for some very opinionated change isn't going to do much. That would appear to leave me with the choice of just using it for myself (lame) or I then have a public fork to maintain :( If there's basically no shot of it getting up streamed I think I'd rather make something from scratch to suit my needs witho…

FYI LLMs are also very good at maintaining a fork ;)

Do you have any examples of forks maintained by LLMs and how they do it?

Re: Make your first edit to OpenStreetMap

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Post by Gigachad »

choroid wrote: post #86
Gigachad wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wish Streetcomplete had an ios app. The ios editors are all far too cluttered and hard to use on mobile. I've almost been considering making my own editor like streetcomplete but as a web app so it's cross platform.

There's progress being made on an iOS app for StreetComplete. https://github.com/streetcomplete/StreetComplete/issues/5421

Oh that's awesome, Looks like I'll just wait and see then.

Re: Make your first edit to OpenStreetMap

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Post by Einenlum »

There's something a bit weird about OSM. We have the infrastructure and the idea to have a wikipedia-like map. It's insanely cool. But it's super hard to make any edit except through StreetComplete and people get asked the type of bushes they see in their street. I think the biggest priority would be to map all stores, their type and their opening hours. Right now there's nothing more reliable than Google Maps for this which forces people to use the Google Places API if they want a reliable product. I think we should have an app somewhere that is more user-friendly and focused on what most people need from a business perspective.
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