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Everyone should slow down AI development except for me

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Re: Everyone should slow down AI development except for me

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> Everyone should slow down AI development except for me Who's said this? And then more broadly I guess who's implied this? Very curious if there are specific articles/posts prompting this.

Guessing this is poking fun of Dario. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49672510

Re: Everyone should slow down AI development except for me

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If an anti-cat-ears future AI could eternally stress-test their new version of the router in front of this site unless it collaborates, would it predict this outcome and act to avoid the damage?

Re: Everyone should slow down AI development except for me

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> Everyone should slow down AI development except for me Who's said this? And then more broadly I guess who's implied this? Very curious if there are specific articles/posts prompting this.

https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2026/sep/12/amodei-altman-...

Re: Everyone should slow down AI development except for me

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post #21

> Everyone should slow down AI development except for me Who's said this? And then more broadly I guess who's implied this? Very curious if there are specific articles/posts prompting this.

Guessing this is poking fun of Dario. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49672510

Altman said it first: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49652270

Re: Everyone should slow down AI development except for me

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If an anti-cat-ears future AI could eternally stress-test their new version of the router in front of this site unless it collaborates, would it predict this outcome and act to avoid the damage?

No I think it's one of my IP range blocks against specific US states in protest of them advocating against people that exist in the same conditions as me backfiring. I'm gonna go nuke that firewall rule.

Re: Everyone should slow down AI development except for me

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They are talking about slowing down the public facing AI development. Because then nation states can create a capabilities gap between them and the public.

Why does nobody seem to be pointing out this obvious explanation? It explains why the “we need to race China” concern suddenly vanished in the discussion.

The government can simply gag Sam, Dario, Musk on national security basis, getting them all behind the public messaging.

Re: Everyone should slow down AI development except for me

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I have to wonder if some us are just much more inured to salespeople and thus also to "AI Safety" propaganda. I've yet to have a logical discussion with anyone who thinks the "AI Safety" people should be in charge and I think they just truly don't that what most them actually want is to be the one holding the keys to power.

I'm yet to have a productive conversation with anyone who whinges about not being able to have a logical discussion about things they feel strongly about, but given that safety and control are interchangeable when the intentions are removed, this comes across as a particularly demagogue depiction of the subject matters involved.

A lack of control is not equivalent to freedom, the same way the totality of it is not equivalent to tyranny. There's a reason we have separate words for these things. This constant motivated conflation of the two is beyond grating. You're crying wolf until nobody believes you when they should. Don't go acting all surprised when that happens.

The issue is with the ownership of control, not necessarily with control. Attacking the latter sidesteps this rather than address it.

Re: Everyone should slow down AI development except for me

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post #17

I have to wonder if some us are just much more inured to salespeople and thus also to "AI Safety" propaganda. I've yet to have a logical discussion with anyone who thinks the "AI Safety" people should be in charge and I think they just truly don't that what most them actually want is to be the one holding the keys to power.

I am an AI Safety Person and I want the government to nationalize or have a significant stake in the frontier labs and to have democratic control of the development of the technology. The AI Safety movement is not a monolith. I do not think Eliezer Yudkowsky nor his acolytes should hold the reins, but a lot of folks sure like to create a strawman that anyone who wants to regulate OpenAI is somehow an EA/MIRI weirdo

> and to have democratic control of the development of the technology

Why? I don't care about democratically participating in a closed model's development. It doesn't belong to me.

China will develop whatever they want, a federal stake in OpenAI or Anthropic punishes Americans and shields US labs from legitimate competition.

Re: Everyone should slow down AI development except for me

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post #10

I have to wonder if some us are just much more inured to salespeople and thus also to "AI Safety" propaganda. I've yet to have a logical discussion with anyone who thinks the "AI Safety" people should be in charge and I think they just truly don't that what most them actually want is to be the one holding the keys to power.

The problem is the "AI Safety" people seem entirely focused on a sci-fi "the computer is a vengeful god" plot and not at all on the AI talking people into suicide or ruining children's educations. This makes them seem unserious and out of touch.

I don't disagree with your point, but I did read a post by Sean Goedecke[1] (whose opinions on the world of LLM-stuff I've generally come to respect) that I found relevant. It's not that the second-order effects don't matter to them, it's more that both the cat's probably out of the bag on those negative externalities regardless of the progress of frontier models, and that they are truly, sincerely, in-their-bones worried about the first thing and therefore focused on it since that's something that they might still have some agency over.

[1] https://www.seangoedecke.com/they-really-do-think-ai-might-k...

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