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Post by rpdillon »

MisterTea wrote: post #32

Who's selling dumb TV's again, Samsung? Who else? I'll happily pay a thousand bucks to not get screwed by my TV.

I used to go on here about Sceptre TVs, because they are relatively cheap and dumb as a brick. Was just shopping for one because of this LG news (wanted to replace my old one from 2014), and while Sceptre still lists them on their website, they tell me to go to Amazon or Walmart to buy one.

Amazon and Walmart say they are out of stock, with no expected date.

My conclusion is that Sceptre, the last holdout in the dumb TV industry, has quit in favor of focusing on monitors/displays for computers. Now I'm not sure if I'm going to ever replace my TV!

Re: LG says we're fake news [video]

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Post by jeffbee »

nottorp wrote: post #35
jeffbee wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mine has been strictly MRU forever. When I look at this video, it does not resemble the software on my LG OLED TV at all. There must be several platforms or generations. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8atmvE0ArA

But how do you know which LG model does what?

I don't. That's the point of my thread. But it's clear to me that not every LG owner is seeing the same things.

Re: LG says we're fake news [video]

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Post by fwip »

forestry wrote: post #18
hadlock wrote: post #15

I deeply regret buying my LG. Originally the plan was to never connect it to wifi, and use an external device (chromecast, apple tv, or whatever) but my wife was too excited to try out whatever features. Unfortunately we can't sell the TV for anywhere what we paid for it new (to replace it with a different brand) so we're stuck with it for another ~7-10 years, or whatever the standard TV replacement interval is these…

What’s stopping you from disconnecting it from wifi mow?

This is also my question, but I suppose the answer could be that we don't trust LG to actually forget the wifi password (and not use it surreptitiously later). You could also change the wifi info, but that might mean changing a whole lot of devices (including wife's and kids).

Re: LG says we're fake news [video]

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Post by Terr_ »

cute_boi wrote: post #31

We should start whitelisting the domains that is allowed from router. Otherwise, these smart shitty ads companies will never take responsibility.

I just had a crazy idea: Are there any ways we (consumers) could leverage the (bad) DMCA "anti-circumvention" laws?

Ex:

1. The noise happening in my house is copyrighted.

2. I protected my copyright by blocking the TV from transmitting it to known manufacturer domains.

3. By switching to obfuscated domains or alternate transmission paths, the manufacturer started circumventing my copyright controls.

... I suppose the boring answer will be that the literally-unreadable stack of Terms Of Service has some "everything we ever do is permitted by you" clause.

Re: LG says we're fake news [video]

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Post by emmelaich »

hadlock wrote: post #15

I deeply regret buying my LG. Originally the plan was to never connect it to wifi, and use an external device (chromecast, apple tv, or whatever) but my wife was too excited to try out whatever features. Unfortunately we can't sell the TV for anywhere what we paid for it new (to replace it with a different brand) so we're stuck with it for another ~7-10 years, or whatever the standard TV replacement interval is these…

Buy a cast/apple tv anyway and then reset the LG screen to factory. Is that an option?

Re: LG says we're fake news [video]

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Post by dubyah »

hadlock wrote: post #15

I deeply regret buying my LG. Originally the plan was to never connect it to wifi, and use an external device (chromecast, apple tv, or whatever) but my wife was too excited to try out whatever features. Unfortunately we can't sell the TV for anywhere what we paid for it new (to replace it with a different brand) so we're stuck with it for another ~7-10 years, or whatever the standard TV replacement interval is these…

As others have said, cut off access and/or factory reset it. My LG has never been granted net access, firmware upgrades through USB drives, and streaming through Onn 4K box(w/ a 3rd party launcher) and Apple TV. No surprise ads, apps, or anything.

Re: LG says we're fake news [video]

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Post by cogman10 »

dgellow wrote: post #9

This „we own the glass“ idea is completely insane. How does an industry degenerate to the point where they consider acceptable to base their business model on owning part of the product they sell you?

Lawmakers should have outlawed EULAs the moment they first showed up in software. The idea that someone could sell you a product which is completely broken until you sign away all your rights on a contract you don't get to see before the purchase is the most anti-consumer thing ever invented. Nothing worked like that before software came along.

The fact that it's now infecting other non-software consumer products is a reason why congress should kill this with fire. Companies are putting screens onto products specifically so they can force an EULA on customers.

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Post by marginalia_nu »

dgellow wrote: post #9

This „we own the glass“ idea is completely insane. How does an industry degenerate to the point where they consider acceptable to base their business model on owning part of the product they sell you?

Big pivotal moment is probably the DMCA and the DRM it's enabled, it's really eroded the concept of ownership in both software and hardware (via firmware), to the point where we've completely lost all control over the devices we buy.

These days devices do what we ask when it benefits their real owners, and refuse to do what we ask of them when it doesn't.

It wasn't an overnight thing, but the temperature in the pot has been increasing for well over a two decades and it's getting more than a bit sweaty.

It's not like Doctorow, the EFF, and a bunch of others didn't warn us. They told us this would happen. Like exactly this.

Re: LG says we're fake news [video]

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Post by XenophileJKO »

dathinab wrote: post #19
oh_my_goodness wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you don't have laws, or don't enforce them, people will do whatever they want. I can remember when this simple point was obvious to almost everyone.

yep one of the first rules of any market should be you sell a product -> you are responsible about the product with a ".. -> you must be honest about the product (/what the products does, provides, etc.)" to see how absurdly not followed this common sense(^1) is in the us look at supplements 1. provider are not hold responsible, non small parts of sold supplements are harmful in one way or another. Even cases like su…

I don't think the supplement information you quoted is correct. There are issues, but I don't think it is that prevalent. I subscribe to consumerlab.com, they do regular testing.
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