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Anthropic CEO Says It's Time to Slow AI Model Advances

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Re: Anthropic CEO Says It's Time to Slow AI Model Advances

#42

CEO trying to avoid government regulation in his industry says what?

I don’t think this has anything to do with that but with them realising that AI development has hit a wall and throwing more money and marketing at it won’t change that.

We are nowhere near a wall. Have you seen the progress of these models on benchmarks?

Re: Anthropic CEO Says It's Time to Slow AI Model Advances

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Meaning they realized they hit a wall. The next new model isn't that much better than the last in quality.

Why is everyone so comically pessimistic about this. Have you guys not seen the rate of progress of these models? Do you not realize that we have HITL RSI making these things even better as time goes on?

The stuff I can do with Astra that Sol couldn't do at all is wild and it's not even coding related. Dario et al are not hitting any sort of make believe wall. They're seeing how fast things are progressing and are legitimately alarmed.

Re: Anthropic CEO Says It's Time to Slow AI Model Advances

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Very probably. I really don't buy their "AI is going to kill us" claims. If you can release something better than your competition you wouldn't want to slow down that.

You would in the case that you think you're in an unsafe race to misaligned superintelligence.

No, what you would do is stop your own private development immediately, get in touch with the government by any means necessary, and build a coalition as fast as possible to stop the technology from continuing and put hard regulation (determined by the government, not dario) on the tech.

Clearly they aren't that scared.

If I hold a gun to your head and tell you to fork over your wallet, you will do it, because you sense imminent threat to life. Yet somehow we're to believe these people have the equivalent of a technological gun to their heads but are choosing to keep their wallets?

Re: Anthropic CEO Says It's Time to Slow AI Model Advances

#45

Sad to see discourse on this website reduced to competitive cynicism.

I mean, none of the frontier labs are beacons of ethics and collective progress. They all want to corner "the market" and pump the riches to their own pockets.

The discourse is a result of their behavior. Not the opposite.

Re: Anthropic CEO Says It's Time to Slow AI Model Advances

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Meaning they realized they hit a wall. The next new model isn't that much better than the last in quality.

Anthropic cannot IPO because AGI is the wrong strategy, and the market is rejecting the AGI approach.

Fable and Astra are what we currently call frontier models, but to be more specific they are generalist models, built in pursuit of AGI. The strategy is to have one single model that does everything, whether it's writing code or doing research, etc. Fable is a single, massively sized models that is intended to do specialist work across every domain.

The issue with this is first of all that it is the contradiction of a generalist doing specialist work, and that contradiction creates the present situation with model profiles that ensure that these models will rarely be chosen in a pool of models like V4.1 Flash that can now do GPT 5.4-level work.

We are seeing this reflected in the market where companies and individual developers are moving away from frontier models toward models with better cost profiles. In a sense, the market is killing Anthropic's dreams of AGI.

https://x.com/trydotworks/status/2098618997230985375?s=20

Re: Anthropic CEO Says It's Time to Slow AI Model Advances

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You would in the case that you think you're in an unsafe race to misaligned superintelligence.

No, what you would do is stop your own private development immediately, get in touch with the government by any means necessary, and build a coalition as fast as possible to stop the technology from continuing and put hard regulation (determined by the government, not dario) on the tech. Clearly they aren't that scared. If I hold a gun to your head and tell you to fork over your wallet, you will do it, because you se…

> No, what you would do is stop your own private development immediately, get in touch with the government by any means necessary, and build a coalition as fast as possible to stop the technology from continuing and put hard regulation (determined by the government, not dario) on the tech.

What you're missing is that they've tried repeatedly to do this over the past years, and the government has repeatedly said that they do not want to put hard regulation on the tech. The previous administration was discussing putting a couple of soft regulations in place; the current administration doesn't want to limit progress at all because they want to stay ahead of China. So the option you're describing just isn't available.

Re: Anthropic CEO Says It's Time to Slow AI Model Advances

#50

Sad to see discourse on this website reduced to competitive cynicism.

I mean, none of the frontier labs are beacons of ethics and collective progress. They all want to corner "the market" and pump the riches to their own pockets. The discourse is a result of their behavior. Not the opposite.

Exactly. People are expecting wode eyed optimism in response to some of the most cutthroat and cynical behavior from the leaders of the AI firms. Its crazy. They're making their bed but they dont want to lie in it
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