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Waymo pulls over, calls cops on juvenile riders who had 'ghost gun"

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Re: Waymo pulls over, calls cops on juvenile riders who had 'ghost gun"

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Post by gruez »

singleshot_ wrote: post #41
Gimpei wrote: post #20

I dunno. This doesn’t bother me in the same way that flock cameras do. A Waymo car is a private space that you don’t have to use if you don’t want to. Seems pretty reasonable to me that Waymo doesn’t want their cars used for drive by shootings. If a drive by were to happen in a Waymo, this would be compelled by law anyway.

Sure, but the Waymo is taking intrusive video of much more than the inside of the car. And unlike a mast-mounted camera, it can be sent almost anywhere at almost any time.

>Sure, but the Waymo is taking intrusive video of much more than the inside of the car.

The alternative is having a driver in the car, which is equally intrusive.

Re: Waymo pulls over, calls cops on juvenile riders who had 'ghost gun"

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Post by gruez »

analog8374 wrote: post #78

I was at LOWES the other day with a used can of paint that I brought for color matching. obviously used. beat up and stained. at the checkout the computer halted the checkout process said "did you forget something in your cart?" yeah fuck that. also fucks self-checkout. are we so poverty stricken as a society now that we can't afford to pay cashiers?

>also fucks self-checkout. are we so poverty stricken as a society now that we can't afford to pay cashiers?

Yeah, I'm appalled how poor as a society we've become, now that we can't afford door men (outside of luxury condos in Manhattan), elevator operators, and bank tellers.

Re: Waymo pulls over, calls cops on juvenile riders who had 'ghost gun"

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Post by Aboutplants »

epsteingpt wrote: post #7

Shocking this isn't bigger news. It will be strange what they get you for. Maybe car ownership isn't doomed after all. At least a human usually has some judgment and discretion situationally. I guess the alternative "Juvenile Driveby Shooting takes place from Waymo" isn't a better headline though.

“Maybe car ownership isn't doomed after all.”

You think “owning” the vehicle will matter in the near future? That’s cute

Re: Waymo pulls over, calls cops on juvenile riders who had 'ghost gun"

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Post by t2r3121 »

graemep wrote: post #25
anon84873628 wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Would you do any of those things in a regular taxi or subway car? Imagine the alternative headline saying the murderers used Waymo for their drive-by assassination. There is only one option for Waymo here, and the idiocy of the US police is not within their power to solve.

A human driver would be more able to tell a toy gun from a real one.

I own airsoft (pellet) guns people have confused for real ones when I left them on a shelf in my house. If you don't know what to look for they look quite convincing these days. Take a look around https://www.evike.com/airsoft-guns/ - everyone deletes or spray paints the orange tips because they make you really visible on the airsoft field.

Re: Waymo pulls over, calls cops on juvenile riders who had 'ghost gun"

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Post by kennywinker »

hosel wrote: post #74
lemmetellya wrote: post #26

Wait, can I not carry in a Waymo? Found their rules page: "Do not carry weapons of any kind in the car" That seems... naive? Plenty of people carry pepper spray or a knife with them. Not even ever intending to use them as a weapon. When I go to the range, I travel with a locked case that contains my pistol, which inside has a cable lock. I couldn't take that through a waymo? What about some kid buying a goofy mall ka…

Don’t brandish your weapon and no one will know you have it. Obviously the case here.

And make sure you don't brandish a mars bar too!

Re: Waymo pulls over, calls cops on juvenile riders who had 'ghost gun"

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Post by nradov »

mplanchard wrote: post #88
monster_truck wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We used to do this and more with nerf guns, laser tag, and then paintball guns. You're not going to believe this but we even used to be able to ride our bikes 30 miles away from home without our parents being arrested. We played with fire in the park too. One time we even found porn there dude The 90s were lit Nah you're right tho let's imagine the worst case scenario. What if that person in the waymo had a nuclear b…

I grew up in the 90s too, and I’m fairly certain that shooting paintball guns out of a taxi would have been generally frowned upon even during that halcyon era.

The kids I grew up with played paintball tag in their own cars, not taxis.

Re: Waymo pulls over, calls cops on juvenile riders who had 'ghost gun"

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Post by nbaugh1 »

Gimpei wrote: post #20

I dunno. This doesn’t bother me in the same way that flock cameras do. A Waymo car is a private space that you don’t have to use if you don’t want to. Seems pretty reasonable to me that Waymo doesn’t want their cars used for drive by shootings. If a drive by were to happen in a Waymo, this would be compelled by law anyway.

Yeah I don’t get it. You’re getting into a privately owned vehicle. You agree to the terms of service when you sign up and ask for a ride. You should assume you have zero privacy in those cars.

Re: Waymo pulls over, calls cops on juvenile riders who had 'ghost gun"

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Post by sellmesoap »

dylan604 wrote: post #47
anon84873628 wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Would you do any of those things in a regular taxi or subway car? Imagine the alternative headline saying the murderers used Waymo for their drive-by assassination. There is only one option for Waymo here, and the idiocy of the US police is not within their power to solve.

That could be a funny-or-die kind of script. They find a Waymo car that is feeling outcast and looking for friendship so it joins a gang. The Waymo car is constantly looking out for rival gang members while on the job, then swings by to pick up its fellow gang members for the hit, but then must obey all of the traffic laws during the get away.

Or worse the waymo gets put in to 'gang mode' by someone bribed on the inside, the car rolls the window down for the drive by, delivers the duffle bags of drugs, auto darkens the windows for a drive by kidnapping, think of the UX possibilities!

Re: Waymo pulls over, calls cops on juvenile riders who had 'ghost gun"

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Post by nbaugh1 »

handwarmers wrote: post #9

Flock is bad, but fleets of cars strapped to the teeth with cameras and sensors are suddenly ok even when they call the police on you? Why? Because of the makers of the technology that powers the cars say they are safer (via datasets that we have no way to validate)?

Because you sign up for the service, agree to the terms, and voluntarily get into the car.

Re: Waymo pulls over, calls cops on juvenile riders who had 'ghost gun"

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Post by kennywinker »

lotsofpulp wrote: post #52
adrianN wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It starts to become a problem once you’ve replaced public infrastructure to a sufficient degree by private infrastructure like waymos that avoiding to use them starts to seriously inconvenience people.

What public infrastructure is replaced by Waymo? All the roads, traffic lights, signs, etc are all still there. Seems equivalent to any other vehicle that is not replacing public infrastructure.

Taxis are a part of transportation infrastructure. Like a system that allows public and private healthcare, a private option pulls the rich people off the public system causing them to neglect and vote against the public system.

So waymos means less busses/trains, which means a bunch of people stuck in the middle - they would prefer to take a bus or a train but the service is poorly maintained so they are forced to take a waymo.

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