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Unfortunately? Are we really at the point of supporting terrorism of the “correct” political persuasion?
Are we at the point where we allow companies to just hack other companies and do nothing about it?
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#22What I find interesting is how the tone seems to have changed in swathes of tech industry. Until LLMs were a thing, techno-optimism and sola technologia fundamentalism seems to have been a more prominent fetish. When LLMs began having a practical and tangible effect, much of the same cohort seems to have pivoted toward aversion. If this is true—and this perception could be an artifact of selection bias driven by thos…
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#23For rethinking the Luddite movement I recommend the book Blood in the Machine (I think I learned about it here on HN)
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Unfortunately? Are we really at the point of supporting terrorism of the “correct” political persuasion?
We're way past it, sadly. Luigi was insanely popular for the cold blooded murder of a CEO. Hundreds of thousands of people celebrated Charlie Kirk's murder within minutes of it happening , let alone the discourse you see now, a year later. Plenty of people, even on this forum, openly advocate for "the funniest thing" happening to Elon. Terrorism and murder are in vogue.
There's a lot of folks out there with champagne bottles and party poppers earmarked for when it happens.
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#25Unfortunately I imagine your modern AI data centre has better security than a 19th century textile mill.
Unfortunately? Are we really at the point of supporting terrorism of the “correct” political persuasion?
Yes. If you're exposed to one entrenched end of the spectrum or another, you might notice the rhetoric and threats have picked up quite a bit on both sides. Language and actions are becoming more divisive and more violent.
I increasingly hear insane not-in-passing phrases like "Someone should just [commit some violent act to further the speaker's political beliefs]." Lately, it's about sabotaging data centers and killing CEOs.
And it's not just talk, this stuff starts by motivating the loonier members of a group to commit acts like mass shootings, the Charlie Kirk assassination, violence against LGBTQ people and other targeted groups, and so on.
I feel like some weird outsider, sitting in center-left.
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#26Unfortunately I imagine your modern AI data centre has better security than a 19th century textile mill.
Unfortunately? Are we really at the point of supporting terrorism of the “correct” political persuasion?
We have an 8 hour workday, and women's suffrage, thanks to "terrorism", as you call it.
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Unfortunately? Are we really at the point of supporting terrorism of the “correct” political persuasion?
Are we at the point where we allow companies to just hack other companies and do nothing about it?
Yes, money is God and companies are his saints. Keep your head down and surrender everything to them
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#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
Unfortunately? Are we really at the point of supporting terrorism of the “correct” political persuasion?
We're way past it, sadly. Luigi was insanely popular for the cold blooded murder of a CEO. Hundreds of thousands of people celebrated Charlie Kirk's murder within minutes of it happening , let alone the discourse you see now, a year later. Plenty of people, even on this forum, openly advocate for "the funniest thing" happening to Elon. Terrorism and murder are in vogue.
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We're way past it, sadly. Luigi was insanely popular for the cold blooded murder of a CEO. Hundreds of thousands of people celebrated Charlie Kirk's murder within minutes of it happening , let alone the discourse you see now, a year later. Plenty of people, even on this forum, openly advocate for "the funniest thing" happening to Elon. Terrorism and murder are in vogue.
There's a lot of folks out there with champagne bottles and party poppers earmarked for when it happens .
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#30In the true sense where you're militarizing and committing acts of sabotage on others' property (so-called "monkeywrenching")? And then, getting suppressed and eradicated/killed by the government? No. I prefer the "Calm Technology"[1] approach as espoused by Amber Case[2]. I think this is the saner path forward. 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calm_technology 2. https://a.co/d/02kdlV3p
What are some of your favorite devices/software that follow this idea? I can list mine: - Supernote by Ratta https://supernote.com - Air Lab by Networked Artifacts https://networkedartifacts.com - Xteink X4 (or equivalent) https://www.xteink.com - Zeroink Writer - my kids use it to practice typing and write letters I can print out. Essentially digital typewriter. https://www.crowdsupply.com/zerowriter/zerowriter-ink…
I love and use a few of those products and would agree, but I think a bigger component is our relationship to technology.
IMHO, calm technology is both a property of a product and a way of relating to a product. And I think it's quite personal. For example, digital note-taking tablets are anything but calm for me (but I recognize they may be for others!). OTOH, I practically live in Obsidian.
I ask myself:
- Can I have a calm relationship with this product?
- Does the product respect my agency? Can I decide when and how this technology enters my attention?
- Is it configurable? Can I turn off notifications, feeds, recommendations, badges, autoplay, algorithmic prompts, and so one, without crippling the useful parts?
- Is it intentional? Can I open it to get something done and then leave, rather than being pulled into continued use?
- Does it improve my well-being? Am I generally better off? Am I more informed, capable, connected, productive, or am I merely more stimulated (eg. dopamine)?
Some other perhaps non-sexy products: Amazon Echo Dot, my various air sensors, my more reliable home automation components that are already setup and just work, my Kindle and Xteink.