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LG denies TV spying claims, says tracking and snooping concerns 'not true'

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Re: LG denies TV spying claims, says tracking and snooping concerns 'not true'

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Post by vasac »

lokar wrote: post #30
illusive4080 wrote: post #26

Easy solution. Do not connect your TV to the internet.

I’ve had TVs that had important firmware updates that improved hdmi/atmos/etc compatibility

I have a 10-year-old LG TV that runs webOS 3. The first update slowed it down - not that it was particularly fast to begin with - and every subsequent update made it even slower. It also constantly nags you to update the firmware. You can’t just refuse once; every time you turn on the TV, it asks you again. I won’t make the same mistake the next time I go shopping for a TV.

Forgot to mention - there were no improvements whatsoever in terms of functionality.

Re: LG denies TV spying claims, says tracking and snooping concerns 'not true'

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Post by lokar »

vasac wrote: post #71
lokar wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’ve had TVs that had important firmware updates that improved hdmi/atmos/etc compatibility

I have a 10-year-old LG TV that runs webOS 3. The first update slowed it down - not that it was particularly fast to begin with - and every subsequent update made it even slower. It also constantly nags you to update the firmware. You can’t just refuse once; every time you turn on the TV, it asks you again. I won’t make the same mistake the next time I go shopping for a TV. Forgot to mention - there were no improveme…

Yeah, I find the LGs to be really annoying. The Sony seems to be much better.

Re: LG denies TV spying claims, says tracking and snooping concerns 'not true'

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Post by newsoftheday »

caymanjim wrote: post #34
illusive4080 wrote: post #26

Easy solution. Do not connect your TV to the internet.

I'm not sure if any TVs currently do this, but they could connect to unsecured public WiFi without the user doing anything, if one were available with no password. Fortunately such networks aren't that common most places, but it's not a big leap from the sketchy things LG and other companies do. They could also put SIMs in them if they wanted. Again, I don't know that any do that, but I wouldn't put it past them. I'm…

> A TV not on the Internet is basically worthless these days, unless you have a third-party streaming device like a Fire or Shield--and then you're just moving the trust point from the TV itself to the streaming device, and the same concerns exist.

We use a Kubuntu Linux laptop behind the TV with a wireless mouse and keyboard (for searching and stuff), stream in Chrome, works great. And yes, we trust this combination.

> Do you trust Amazon any more than you trust LG?

We don't use Amazon device products just because we use Kubuntu Linux on PC's in our home but yes based on LG's behavior we trust Amazon more and we don't put our LG TV or any of our LG appliances we bought a few years ago, on the Internet.

Re: LG denies TV spying claims, says tracking and snooping concerns 'not true'

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Post by newsoftheday »

bubblemoth wrote: post #31
illusive4080 wrote: post #26

Easy solution. Do not connect your TV to the internet.

I don't think it's unreasonable to think that the television would search for unsecured wi-fi or other ways of connecting to the internet without user input.

I agree, it would be easy for a security research to discover if a TV tried to do that and would result in an even greater stuffstorm than LG is dealing with now or that Samsung dealt with in the past.

Re: LG denies TV spying claims, says tracking and snooping concerns 'not true'

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Post by cassianoleal »

aeternum wrote: post #23

Note that their statement could also be true if they record 99% of the time. We need to start calling companies out for meaningless weasel statements like "We don't record continuously". The majority of the problem is also simply the ability to record. Putting a remote control listening hardware on a device that runs a plethora of 3rd party apps and with full connection to the internet means that even if LG isn't con…

In any case, "We don't record continuously" is still recording. They should not be recording at all!

Re: LG denies TV spying claims, says tracking and snooping concerns 'not true'

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Post by seanieb »

klausa wrote: post #25
jurf wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Both can be true.

The person I’m replying to said “the only reason”, so no; they can’t.

You're correct. And yes, I shouldn't have said “the only reason”, I'd amend that to "one of the reasons".

Re: LG denies TV spying claims, says tracking and snooping concerns 'not true'

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Post by Koshcheiushko »

I've one question: I've used android phone (realme, which is chinese). And i remember that whenever we used to discuss somethings among our friends, i started used to get ads realated to that on my laptop, phone within atmost a hour.

So, was realme transcribing all conversations and uploading it? Can someone answer?

Re: LG denies TV spying claims, says tracking and snooping concerns 'not true'

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Post by tracerbulletx »

The leaked advertising pitch videos from them where they say "we own the glass" as a pitch to potential advertising partners, about a tv they sold me just viscerally pissed me off so I'm kind of just done with them even if thats an irrationally strong response. The whole attitude just makes me so mad.
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