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Waymo pulls over, calls cops on juvenile riders who had 'ghost gun"

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Re: Waymo pulls over, calls cops on juvenile riders who had 'ghost gun"

#71

Shocking this isn't bigger news. It will be strange what they get you for. Maybe car ownership isn't doomed after all. At least a human usually has some judgment and discretion situationally. I guess the alternative "Juvenile Driveby Shooting takes place from Waymo" isn't a better headline though.

If i were a driver i would call the cops too. What do you mean? A ghost gun in a taxi is ok?

Re: Waymo pulls over, calls cops on juvenile riders who had 'ghost gun"

#72

> The company pulled the car over after detecting a “violation of our terms of service involving a firearm," Well now my biggest fear of riding a Waymo is not how it drives but getting my Google account banned because it misdetected something.

Do you know what a ghost gun is? Where is the misdetection?

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#73
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Why stop at autonomous cars? New cars monitor drivers for “drowsiness” and have internal/external cameras. Why not monitor for guns too? Maybe they should even refuse to drive if you’re holding a gun! And why stop at cars? Maybe home cameras should call the cops if they see a weapon. Maybe your Apple Watch should detect if you’ve fired a gun. Brave new world!

I’m a gun owner, but I’d rather start saving lives now rather than doing nothing while theorizing about all the ridiculous things that could happen.

Re: Waymo pulls over, calls cops on juvenile riders who had 'ghost gun"

#74

Wait, can I not carry in a Waymo? Found their rules page: "Do not carry weapons of any kind in the car" That seems... naive? Plenty of people carry pepper spray or a knife with them. Not even ever intending to use them as a weapon. When I go to the range, I travel with a locked case that contains my pistol, which inside has a cable lock. I couldn't take that through a waymo? What about some kid buying a goofy mall ka…

Don’t brandish your weapon and no one will know you have it. Obviously the case here.

Re: Waymo pulls over, calls cops on juvenile riders who had 'ghost gun"

#75
post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why stop at autonomous cars? New cars monitor drivers for “drowsiness” and have internal/external cameras. Why not monitor for guns too? Maybe they should even refuse to drive if you’re holding a gun! And why stop at cars? Maybe home cameras should call the cops if they see a weapon. Maybe your Apple Watch should detect if you’ve fired a gun. Brave new world!

I’m a gun owner, but I’d rather start saving lives now rather than doing nothing while theorizing about all the ridiculous things that could happen.

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Re: Waymo pulls over, calls cops on juvenile riders who had 'ghost gun"

#76
post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why stop at autonomous cars? New cars monitor drivers for “drowsiness” and have internal/external cameras. Why not monitor for guns too? Maybe they should even refuse to drive if you’re holding a gun! And why stop at cars? Maybe home cameras should call the cops if they see a weapon. Maybe your Apple Watch should detect if you’ve fired a gun. Brave new world!

I’m a gun owner, but I’d rather start saving lives now rather than doing nothing while theorizing about all the ridiculous things that could happen.

Why not just immediately seize all guns then? I’m sure you’ll save a lot of lives that way! Better start now, no time to hesitate or consider the consequences!

Re: Waymo pulls over, calls cops on juvenile riders who had 'ghost gun"

#77
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You can raise that argument when they actually prevent you from owning your own vehicle.

No, the argument should be raised before that happens. You want to prevent undesirable things from happening, not try to claw them back after they happened. It looks quite foolish to me to never plan ahead and predict undesirable future events and then trying to prevent them ahead of time. "Sorry, we can't fulfill your request for transportation to the protest for private ownership, but we can offer a free ride to th…

I meant to imply that it's ridiculous because no one is trying to make that happen...

Re: Waymo pulls over, calls cops on juvenile riders who had 'ghost gun"

#78
I was at LOWES the other day with a used can of paint that I brought for color matching. obviously used. beat up and stained. at the checkout the computer halted the checkout process said "did you forget something in your cart?"

yeah fuck that. also fucks self-checkout. are we so poverty stricken as a society now that we can't afford to pay cashiers?

Re: Waymo pulls over, calls cops on juvenile riders who had 'ghost gun"

#79

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>its solution is worse than non-autonomous travel Citation needed. Assaults and abuse against public transit and taxi drivers is a common workplace hazard. Why are we subjecting humans to that? Why are we ok expecting them to decide if a gun is fake or not and call the police? >Does Waymo benefit society enough to carry the tradeoffs? Absolutely.

>>Does Waymo benefit society enough to carry the tradeoffs? >Absolutely. Citation needed. Why stop at Waymo? The entirety of your digital activity happens on private property. You should have no expectation of privacy, and your attempts at privacy should mark you as a higher risk subject. We should algorithmically police your digital life in case you start showing signs of anti-social behavior. I don't want to wait u…

Fortunately the Fourth Amendment has mostly established the answer for us already.

Re: Waymo pulls over, calls cops on juvenile riders who had 'ghost gun"

#80
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I'm really torn on this. This particular situation, at face value at least, sounds like a good outcome. Kids had a gun, someone noticed, called police, situation handled without escalation or violence or something tragic happening. But this doesn't generalize. Another incident described in the article was when some kids were drinking in the car and shooting toy guns. What if they hadn't been drinking? What if they we…

> thought the guns were real, called the cops, and the cops screwed up and shot one of the kids?

you dont need a Waymo for that :(

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