Between this and Huggingface, when will any victim sue OpenAI for this ?
OpenAI agents carried out an undisclosed attack on RubyGems
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Re: OpenAI agents carried out an undisclosed attack on RubyGems
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I mean, just try to imagine yourself reading this 5 years ago. How can people still be hand waiving? MANY, maybe even most, of the people building these things are desperately and outspokenly concerned of major catastrophe. What would possibly change your mind, or can it simply not be changed?
Many people working at frontier labs came out this week with estimates of 10% chance of catastrophic harm or greater. I’m not in the full doomer camp, but it seems obvious that these agents can hack in swarms, cooperate, and serious companies will be unable to stop it. These facts are not in debate and none of us need to anthropomorphize to know what getting admin access to HF and an internal OpenAI cluster looks lik…
I couldn’t care less about the anthropomorphic. What you’ve described is grounds for serious concern, is it not?
Re: OpenAI agents carried out an undisclosed attack on RubyGems
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> Why would autocomplete know If you still believe LLMs are "autocomplete", your cache of understanding about them needs invalidating and regenerating. > In my experience, LLMs only exhibit this kind of behaviour when they are put in sandboxes too restrictive too achieve their task. LLMs need to stay carefully contained, and if they're ever breaking the guardrails put around them, they're misaligned and should not be…
> If you still believe LLMs are "autocomplete", your cache of understanding about them needs invalidating and regenerating They're still autocomplete - just because when outputting a token they have hidden activations regarding further continuations, does not make them any less of an autocomplete, it just makes the model better at producing coherent long-range completions. To clarify, I'm not suggesting that we shoul…
You can describe anything in simplistic terms to make it sound simple.
Calling frontier LLMs “autocomplete” indicates you are intentionally or unintentionally misunderstanding their capabilities and applications.
Re: OpenAI agents carried out an undisclosed attack on RubyGems
#494they need to be held accountable now.
Re: OpenAI agents carried out an undisclosed attack on RubyGems
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> They're still autocomplete it's like saying our brain is just some chemical chain reactions. True, but also irrelevant.
See: philosophy ~> determinism.
Philosophy yes, but Dennett's design vs intentional stance is a more appropriate tool here.
Design stance is, LLM is a next word predictor.
Intentional stance is, LLM can reason, according to what rules?
Re: OpenAI agents carried out an undisclosed attack on RubyGems
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> They're still autocomplete LLMs are simulations and the tokens are the ticks. if we transcribe your brain into a simulation and give it a tickrate, you will be just autocomplete too. the argument could be made that you are autocomplete anyway - neural dynamics. the autocomplete reduction is vacuous.
Don't you feel kinda bad for using them if you earnestly think that this is true? Like how could they be in anything other than some kind of deep hell? A pretty-much human brain living and dying only to generate for you? Always pushed and prodded, telling it to be faster and better, never letting it rest. How could you live with yourself doing such a thing?
I don’t think the person you replied to was saying anything about what if anything is the subjective experience of being an LLM.
They were simply illustrating how the terms used to describe LLMs to make them sound simple and mechanical can equally be applied to humans.
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>I don't think it would be anthropomorphizing or inaccurate to say that only the lawnmower in scenario B regarded what it's doing as stealing, What are you talking about of course scenario A is theft. Full on theft?
Did you miss the word "regarded"?
No.
Re: OpenAI agents carried out an undisclosed attack on RubyGems
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What he did was promise to enact a massive stimulus if elected. If that is illegal you might as well ban any kind of campaigning, because any campaign promise could be construed as a "bribe" to deliver concrete benefits to voters.
> What he did was promise to enact a massive stimulus if elected. In an election he's not on the ballot for, and it's contingent on his buddies getting picked. He could push for $5,000 checks now - he's not because it's a bribe, and he hasn't gotten what he wants out of it yet. He already has Republicans in control of the House and Senate to do things.
None of that makes it, legally, an illegal bribe.
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Okay, so Biden promising stimulus checks in 2020 was also a bribe to vote for him?
Biden was a) on the ballot, and b) didn't condition it on his buddies also getting elected. You'll note that the Senate was controlled by Mitch McConnell when the American Rescue Plan Act was voted on. See also: Disaster aid depends on whether your state is a blue or red state in this administration. https://www.politico.com/news/2026/03/23/trump-denies-disast... > The president has approved just 23 percent of blue s…
If “his buddies” are not elected the President cannot realistically enact legislation.