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Pandas Should Go Extinct

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Re: Pandas Should Go Extinct

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Post by __eddie__ »

rmunn wrote: post #52

Cute title; I thought I was about to read a contrarian ecologist saying "a species that is so very specialized in its diet and finicky in its reproductive behavior doesn't deserve, evolutionarily speaking, to survive". (Seriously, it's seriously freakin' difficult to get pandas to reproduce in captivity). And while my knee-jerk reaction would be "maybe, but we should still preserve them because we can", I was prepare…

Apologies for not rewarding your trust ;)

Would be very interested to read an article on the literal interpretation of my title.

Also just wanted to say thank you for this comment - made my day :)

Re: Pandas Should Go Extinct

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Post by chaboud »

Wait, wait, wait... you're telling me that polars, something made in this decade, is better at modern problems than something made two decades ago?!

I'm shocked! Shocked, I say!

Sometimes you just want something that works with all the things. That's pandas. But, like the bamboo eaters, it wont be long...

Re: Pandas Should Go Extinct

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Post by otherme123 »

rmunn wrote: post #52

Cute title; I thought I was about to read a contrarian ecologist saying "a species that is so very specialized in its diet and finicky in its reproductive behavior doesn't deserve, evolutionarily speaking, to survive". (Seriously, it's seriously freakin' difficult to get pandas to reproduce in captivity). And while my knee-jerk reaction would be "maybe, but we should still preserve them because we can", I was prepare…

> Seriously, it's seriously freakin' difficult to get pandas to reproduce in captivity

It is impossible, and has been tried many times by many people, to reproduce Octopus vulgari in captivity. Their reproductive behaviour looks also quite weird for us (the mother always die). Yet they thrive in the wild unless over fished.

Re: Pandas Should Go Extinct

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Post by Grimblewald »

otherme123 wrote: post #73
rmunn wrote: post #52

Cute title; I thought I was about to read a contrarian ecologist saying "a species that is so very specialized in its diet and finicky in its reproductive behavior doesn't deserve, evolutionarily speaking, to survive". (Seriously, it's seriously freakin' difficult to get pandas to reproduce in captivity). And while my knee-jerk reaction would be "maybe, but we should still preserve them because we can", I was prepare…

> Seriously, it's seriously freakin' difficult to get pandas to reproduce in captivity It is impossible, and has been tried many times by many people, to reproduce Octopus vulgari in captivity. Their reproductive behaviour looks also quite weird for us (the mother always die). Yet they thrive in the wild unless over fished.

because breeding intelligent creatures generally requires keeping them happy. When treated like a farm aniaml, many high cognition anaimals will refuse to reproduce, just look at how bad life has become for average humans, and predictably, humans are starting to refuse to reproduce.

Re: Pandas Should Go Extinct

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Post by parineum »

Grimblewald wrote: post #75
otherme123 wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Seriously, it's seriously freakin' difficult to get pandas to reproduce in captivity It is impossible, and has been tried many times by many people, to reproduce Octopus vulgari in captivity. Their reproductive behaviour looks also quite weird for us (the mother always die). Yet they thrive in the wild unless over fished.

because breeding intelligent creatures generally requires keeping them happy. When treated like a farm aniaml, many high cognition anaimals will refuse to reproduce, just look at how bad life has become for average humans, and predictably, humans are starting to refuse to reproduce.

Birth rates fall as prosperity increases.

Re: Pandas Should Go Extinct

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Post by viccis »

__mharrison__ wrote: post #56
viccis wrote: post #11

Polars seems nice but in my experience using it, the "lazy" APIs would still immediately materialize a ton of stuff in memory and had very spotty support on what data formats and storage integrations were possible with scan_* functions (though that was half a year ago and the support is slowly improving). It's frustrating, I mean really frustrating, to think I could solve a lot of my "scan through heinous amounts of…

Did you ever report these issues to polars developers? I reported many bugs to both pandas and polars over the years and both teams tend to address relatively big ones. (Still have some outstanding pandas bugs that I think are a big deal but the devs disagree.)

Yeah, was in the Discord for a while

Re: Pandas Should Go Extinct

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Post by rmunn »

Grimblewald wrote: post #75
otherme123 wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Seriously, it's seriously freakin' difficult to get pandas to reproduce in captivity It is impossible, and has been tried many times by many people, to reproduce Octopus vulgari in captivity. Their reproductive behaviour looks also quite weird for us (the mother always die). Yet they thrive in the wild unless over fished.

because breeding intelligent creatures generally requires keeping them happy. When treated like a farm aniaml, many high cognition anaimals will refuse to reproduce, just look at how bad life has become for average humans, and predictably, humans are starting to refuse to reproduce.

That's more true in some locations than in others. There are places where the reported quality of life is quite a bit higher than others. I see comments like yours a lot on HN, and I'm starting to suspect that the average HN commenter is more likely to be living in some of the poorly-run big cities than in the better-run small-to-medium-sized towns. (Specifics can, and will vary. But on average I've found I'm much happier living in a medium-sized town than in a megacity, and I've also found the city governments of medium-sized towns to be more likely to be competent. Perhaps I've just been lucky in the medium towns I've lived in, though; I'd need far more data before I was certain of the thesis).

Point is, if you're miserable in the place where you are, consider whether moving to a different town is feasible for you. It's not always an option for many people, for many varied reasons. But it's definitely something to consider. If it turns out you can do it, sometimes taking that risk can pay off in the long run.

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