maybe Internet for people on earth matters more than astronomy
We had that before Starlink flooded the radio quiet zones with leakage.
Not everyone lives within a metro that has good infrastructure. This is even more true in developing countries.
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#22maybe Internet for people on earth matters more than astronomy
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#24maybe Internet for people on earth matters more than astronomy
That might be dispositive if we didn't already have almost everybody on Earth wired up without using satellites.
Got a source for that?
Because there's entire continents of people who think it's the most ridiculous statement they've ever read on this site (which they can only access because of Starlink).
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#25Earlier quoted context omitted.
We had that before Starlink flooded the radio quiet zones with leakage.
Not everyone lives within a metro that has good infrastructure. This is even more true in developing countries.
More tech people need to go places.
I was living in the eastern Caribbean ten years ago (a place that is not particularly poor), and the number of web services that could not handle a slow or unreliable connection was kind of shocking. Netflix was actually pretty impressive, they were fine to about 500kb/s with a lot of dropped packets. Below that, they were slow, but by no means unreliable. Most other sites would shit the bed on a similar connection.
Starlink has been an absolute godsend for my friends that are still down there.
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#26> Algorithmic mitigation is being explored, but scientists describe it as “embryonic” — potentially demanding computing power that rivals the science processing itself. It sounds like this would work? Just be more costly, at least in the short term. > Engineering fixes are the real answer What is the fix and tradeoff? The article doesn't seem to cover it at all.
> The accidental static bleeding from onboard hardware, coupling through satellite structures and radiating across frequencies nobody authorized.
> The numbers tell the story bluntly:
I wouldn't waste too much compute trying to parse it, lots of LLM tells in the article. Pangram puts it at 100% AI.
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#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
Most of Starlink’s customers are simply rural people who want Internet access at decent speeds. There are wide swathes of the US where Starlink’s best competition is measured in kilobytes per second.
Seems like a case for the US having better fibre deployment than it does for leaking interference from unshielded poorly made tin cans.
~80% of Starlink customers are not in the US.
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#28While I pine for a dark sky, it makes sense that these operations should move in the same way century old optical telescopes in cities are no longer used for cutting edge science. The far side of the moon seems like an increasingly viable option.
Just wait until wireless networks on the moon ruin that too.
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#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
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