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Re: GrapheneOS' rewritten Messages app is released

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Post by topaz0 »

armadyl wrote: post #108
topaz0 wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder if Meta pays phone manufacturers under the table to keep their size large

The overwhelming majority of consumers just prefer larger screens (myself included). People seem to forget that Apple releasing the Mini was them listening to the minority and the sales numbers if it were poor versus the rest of the lineup. And why would Meta even do that?

- facilitate the infinite scroll

- remind you that the phone is in your pocket, to initiate the infinite scroll

Re: GrapheneOS' rewritten Messages app is released

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Post by armadyl »

topaz0 wrote: post #111
armadyl wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The overwhelming majority of consumers just prefer larger screens (myself included). People seem to forget that Apple releasing the Mini was them listening to the minority and the sales numbers if it were poor versus the rest of the lineup. And why would Meta even do that?

- facilitate the infinite scroll - remind you that the phone is in your pocket, to initiate the infinite scroll

Sorry but this is maximum level conspiratorial thinking. Meta probably has some created some incentive for OEMs to make larger screens by way of people liking content consumption but the idea that they’d be paying for that is ridiculous lol.

Re: GrapheneOS' rewritten Messages app is released

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Post by imkac »

fc417fc802 wrote: post #85
Telaneo wrote: post #59

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It's because Fairphone doesn't fulfil GOS's hardware requirements. If Fairphone addresses that, there's no reason for GOS to not support a Fairphone device.

I don't understand the issue. If Fairphone wants GOS can't they just compile it themselves with whatever unsupported hardware based security features disabled? Ditto for any given end user. It's not as though we're talking about a device with hardware specs locked behind an NDA and drivers that only support outdated kernel versions.

Yes, they can, but they have promoted /e/OS, and they have no ability to develop Android.

Re: GrapheneOS' rewritten Messages app is released

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Post by preisschild »

topaz0 wrote: post #111
armadyl wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The overwhelming majority of consumers just prefer larger screens (myself included). People seem to forget that Apple releasing the Mini was them listening to the minority and the sales numbers if it were poor versus the rest of the lineup. And why would Meta even do that?

- facilitate the infinite scroll - remind you that the phone is in your pocket, to initiate the infinite scroll

I find reading ebooks and long texts like wikipedia a lot more enjoyable on my 6.8" AMOLED panel than on the smaller screens i've had before. You can also doomscroll on smaller screens.

Re: GrapheneOS' rewritten Messages app is released

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Post by preisschild »

riedel wrote: post #100
bramhaag wrote: post #47

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> Fairphone has said they don't plan to add a secure element. It can be seen from their current devices that they don't fully keep up with privacy/security backports and lag a year behind on shipping yearly OS releases. They skip over the monthly and quarterly releases entirely. They replaced their own non-GMS Fairphone OS with a dramatically less secure /e/OS option in partnership with Murena. They clearly demonstra…

One of the reasons I haven't switched to Graphene is this kind of drama. I wish there was more middle ground. I don't think the post is in any way constructive and will lead to fairphone to consider adding a secure element.

Imo i think actually naming the problems is a lot more productive than walking around them

Re: GrapheneOS' rewritten Messages app is released

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Post by sellmesoap »

fph wrote: post #82
tcfhgj wrote: post #56

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also I think RCS is way to insecure for Graphene OS - they have no way of making sure the communication is actually 100% secure. In my experience, Graphene OS doesn't make compromises.

Why would they support SMS then?

SMS is a defacto carrier tech that people expect to work, people also don't expect e2ee or any kind of privacy scheme on SMS but it might be a place to hand communication off to a different tech. Whereas RCS leaks meta data to the goog or worse (I don't know the ins and outs of RCS) but by default I would trust it less then signal, who may also collect meta data leaked through the goog, so I guess the real solution is to be boring and assume there is no security or privacy for anyone of reasonable means.

Re: GrapheneOS' rewritten Messages app is released

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Post by topaz0 »

armadyl wrote: post #112
topaz0 wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

- facilitate the infinite scroll - remind you that the phone is in your pocket, to initiate the infinite scroll

Sorry but this is maximum level conspiratorial thinking. Meta probably has some created some incentive for OEMs to make larger screens by way of people liking content consumption but the idea that they’d be paying for that is ridiculous lol.

I forgive you I guess

Re: GrapheneOS' rewritten Messages app is released

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Post by axelthegerman »

armadyl wrote: post #108
topaz0 wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder if Meta pays phone manufacturers under the table to keep their size large

The overwhelming majority of consumers just prefer larger screens (myself included). People seem to forget that Apple releasing the Mini was them listening to the minority and the sales numbers if it were poor versus the rest of the lineup. And why would Meta even do that?

Or maybe the majority of people buying a new damn phone every other week just prefer it'd be a tablet

Re: GrapheneOS' rewritten Messages app is released

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Post by AstralSerenity »

I_am_tiberius wrote: post #40

Everytime I read GrapheneOS news I search for news related to Fairephone. It's such a shame that there's still no official plan for Fairephone to work on requirements for GrapheneOS. The combination of those 2 would be fantastic. It would also open a big new market (I assume) for Fairephone so not sure why there seems no clear sign in that direction at all (to my knowledge).

I would throw serious money at them both if this collaboration happened.
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