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Re: GrapheneOS' rewritten Messages app is released

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Post by josephg »

Telaneo wrote: post #88
fc417fc802 wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't understand the issue. If Fairphone wants GOS can't they just compile it themselves with whatever unsupported hardware based security features disabled? Ditto for any given end user. It's not as though we're talking about a device with hardware specs locked behind an NDA and drivers that only support outdated kernel versions.

Simple. Fairphone doesn't want GOS. Forking GOS and porting it to a new device is a huge and unreasonable ask for an individual user. Even less so when you include the fact that you'll need to keep it up to date.

Why? Because of drivers? Don’t they already have Linux drivers for the fairphone?

I wonder if fable or astra could wire everything up.

Re: GrapheneOS' rewritten Messages app is released

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Post by varispeed »

drnick1 wrote: post #99
I_am_tiberius wrote: post #40

Everytime I read GrapheneOS news I search for news related to Fairephone. It's such a shame that there's still no official plan for Fairephone to work on requirements for GrapheneOS. The combination of those 2 would be fantastic. It would also open a big new market (I assume) for Fairephone so not sure why there seems no clear sign in that direction at all (to my knowledge).

To be honest the specs of the Fairphone are middling and the device is rather expensive for what you get. The Pixels are a much better value, especially with a series. If you want something truly high end, wait for the Motorola with official GOS support.

Without support of alternative OS Fairphone is basically a landfill. Why would anyone buy this apart from novelty factor.

Re: GrapheneOS' rewritten Messages app is released

#104

Post by IlIlI »

riedel wrote: post #100
bramhaag wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Fairphone has said they don't plan to add a secure element. It can be seen from their current devices that they don't fully keep up with privacy/security backports and lag a year behind on shipping yearly OS releases. They skip over the monthly and quarterly releases entirely. They replaced their own non-GMS Fairphone OS with a dramatically less secure /e/OS option in partnership with Murena. They clearly demonstra…

One of the reasons I haven't switched to Graphene is this kind of drama. I wish there was more middle ground. I don't think the post is in any way constructive and will lead to fairphone to consider adding a secure element.

I don't see their post as 'drama' or nonconstructive at all. It's simply a list of well-founded criticisms of Fairphone's extremely lax position on security that is incompatible with Graphene's. If being critiqued for it doesn't lead to them considering adding a secure element, that's a problem on Fairphone's side imo.

Re: GrapheneOS' rewritten Messages app is released

#105

Post by topaz0 »

t0bia_s wrote: post #83
jasonvorhe wrote: post #49

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Everytime I see Fairphone mentioned whenever there's news about GrapheneOS I'm confused as to why people keep on conflating both when they obviously have very different goals.

Every time Fairphone release new device I check width size. Still waiting for small device.

I wonder if Meta pays phone manufacturers under the table to keep their size large

Re: GrapheneOS' rewritten Messages app is released

#106

Post by tsunamifury »

andrepd wrote: post #87
tsunamifury wrote: post #66

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It’s amazing that you don’t think any of this is based on real HCI. People prefer larger tap targets on touch screens.

> People prefer larger tap targets on touch screens. Only in a completely stupid, nonsensically A/B tested notion of "prefer". I'll refer you to this ~~excellent piece of satirical writing~~ actual post from Google design team: https://design.google/library/expressive-material-design-goo...

Uh. This HCI fact has been known for 30 plus years.

Are you this … poorly informed

Re: GrapheneOS' rewritten Messages app is released

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Post by qingcharles »

andrepd wrote: post #63

Seeing "Material 3/Material You" is a negative point for me, not a positive. It's almost comical just how atrocious the UI is. Yes let's make all phones 20% huge-er and all whitespace 40% wider, said no sane person ever.

Design is so personal. I love Material 3 Expressive personally. Each to their own :)

Re: GrapheneOS' rewritten Messages app is released

#108

Post by armadyl »

topaz0 wrote: post #105
t0bia_s wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Every time Fairphone release new device I check width size. Still waiting for small device.

I wonder if Meta pays phone manufacturers under the table to keep their size large

The overwhelming majority of consumers just prefer larger screens (myself included). People seem to forget that Apple releasing the Mini was them listening to the minority and the sales numbers if it were poor versus the rest of the lineup.

And why would Meta even do that?

Re: GrapheneOS' rewritten Messages app is released

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Post by armadyl »

varispeed wrote: post #103
drnick1 wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To be honest the specs of the Fairphone are middling and the device is rather expensive for what you get. The Pixels are a much better value, especially with a series. If you want something truly high end, wait for the Motorola with official GOS support.

Without support of alternative OS Fairphone is basically a landfill. Why would anyone buy this apart from novelty factor.

Supporting an alternative OS wouldn’t change the fate of Fairphone, imo. Most people don’t care to move away from the stock version of Android that comes with their phone or iOS.

Re: GrapheneOS' rewritten Messages app is released

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Post by armadyl »

NewJazz wrote: post #48
saligne wrote: post #42

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You should search for the many times where GrapheneOS has stated they won't work with Fairphone

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I would imagine the cross section of people who seek out GOS but would settle for Postmarket OS is nearly non existent.
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