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Re: GrapheneOS' rewritten Messages app is released

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Post by Timshel »

jasonvorhe wrote: post #49
I_am_tiberius wrote: post #40

Everytime I read GrapheneOS news I search for news related to Fairephone. It's such a shame that there's still no official plan for Fairephone to work on requirements for GrapheneOS. The combination of those 2 would be fantastic. It would also open a big new market (I assume) for Fairephone so not sure why there seems no clear sign in that direction at all (to my knowledge).

Everytime I see Fairphone mentioned whenever there's news about GrapheneOS I'm confused as to why people keep on conflating both when they obviously have very different goals.

? Not conflating, just we want a phone with both goals ...

Re: GrapheneOS' rewritten Messages app is released

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Post by IshKebab »

sakisv wrote: post #50
qweqwe14 wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I constantly see those projects that would benefit from a screenshot in a readme, but for some reason the thought about adding one doesn't even come to the authors' mind, even though it's pretty obvious. I'd really like to know what's going on.

I think the reason is that you can get quite much of a tunnel vision while developing. Everyone involved already knows what they're building and how it looks, so it's very easy to overlook it. Case in point, I recently wrote a CLI to show which of your AWS infra is not captured in terraform, and you can either print the result as a json to consume by a machine or generate a dashboard with some charts. It took me an e…

It's also just quite a lot of work to generate screenshots.

Re: GrapheneOS' rewritten Messages app is released

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Post by andrepd »

jasonvorhe wrote: post #49
I_am_tiberius wrote: post #40

Everytime I read GrapheneOS news I search for news related to Fairephone. It's such a shame that there's still no official plan for Fairephone to work on requirements for GrapheneOS. The combination of those 2 would be fantastic. It would also open a big new market (I assume) for Fairephone so not sure why there seems no clear sign in that direction at all (to my knowledge).

Everytime I see Fairphone mentioned whenever there's news about GrapheneOS I'm confused as to why people keep on conflating both when they obviously have very different goals.

I think it's obvious that the target audience has a huge overlap...

Re: GrapheneOS' rewritten Messages app is released

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Post by azdle »

okanat wrote: post #55
mrd3v0 wrote: post #46

I wish they prioritised the call app. It is beyond appalling. You can't even determine when a call happened, beyond the generic low fidelity "[time] ago". It also almost feels like tapping anything makes me accidentally call people. Abhorrent UI/UX to be completely honest.

I'm using LineageOS so I have the AOSP Phone app. If Graphene uses the same, then you can actually determine the exact time of call, but you need to jump through a couple of hoops: Go to "Call History" from the three dots then click on the call of interest. You'll see a button called "Call Details". Then you can see the exact time.

Can confirm the same works on Graphene. Also works directly from the "Recents" list.

Re: GrapheneOS' rewritten Messages app is released

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Post by tsunamifury »

andrepd wrote: post #63

Seeing "Material 3/Material You" is a negative point for me, not a positive. It's almost comical just how atrocious the UI is. Yes let's make all phones 20% huge-er and all whitespace 40% wider, said no sane person ever.

It’s amazing that you don’t think any of this is based on real HCI.

People prefer larger tap targets on touch screens.

Re: GrapheneOS' rewritten Messages app is released

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Post by gib444 »

jasonvorhe wrote: post #54
gib444 wrote: post #9

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You're using software from an alpha channel. People sometimes.

Alpha lowers the expected level of polish and stability - it doesn't make every regression equally acceptable. It is a reasonable criticism even when released to the alpha channel.

Further, I believe it's reasonable for users' expectations to be influenced by what the project itself communicates about the development process.

> People sometimes.

I have experienced many (relatively minor but some annoying) bugs in GrapheneOS the past few years, without complaint to the developers. And have submitted bug reports and logs. I'm "in the trenches", not just slinging mud from the outside. If I were in a better financial situation right now, I would be donating too.

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