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Re: GrapheneOS' rewritten Messages app is released

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It's doubly disappointing because just 4 days ago the project wrote [1], on using AI for the new Messaging app:

Why? Using an LLM as an additional reviewer seems like a good use of LLMs? Personally I have found LLMs very useful for that and they catch issues that other experienced programmers do not always find. It’s not like they are vibecoding a messages app.

Re: GrapheneOS' rewritten Messages app is released

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Does it do RCS?

No. RCS is still quite hard to actually implement. There's an open issue for it but the effort is mildly herculean. AFAIUI though GOS does intend on providing an RCS impl eventually even if it takes years to do.

I'm really hoping they're doing this to pave the way for an RCS implementation. If it can be done, GOS is in the best position to make it happen, and without RCS, chatting with normies is both extremely inconvenient (large group chats straight up do not work) and categorically insecure. If I could convince all my friends and family to use Signal I would, but they just think I'm on about some weird Edward Snowden shit, and they just write me off as crazy. "Why would I checks notes download software to solve a problem when I could use the one that came with my phone?"

Re: GrapheneOS' rewritten Messages app is released

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post #9

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It's doubly disappointing because just 4 days ago the project wrote [1], on using AI for the new Messaging app: Why? Using an LLM as an additional reviewer seems like a good use of LLMs? Personally I have found LLMs very useful for that and they catch issues that other experienced programmers do not always find. It’s not like they are vibecoding a messages app.

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Re: GrapheneOS' rewritten Messages app is released

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How about some screenshots?

I constantly see those projects that would benefit from a screenshot in a readme, but for some reason the thought about adding one doesn't even come to the authors' mind, even though it's pretty obvious. I'd really like to know what's going on.

"A picture is worth a thousand words"

It's like we've had this ancient knowledge passed down for generations but people constantly just ignore it.

Re: GrapheneOS' rewritten Messages app is released

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post #9

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It's doubly disappointing because just 4 days ago the project wrote [1], on using AI for the new Messaging app: Why? Using an LLM as an additional reviewer seems like a good use of LLMs? Personally I have found LLMs very useful for that and they catch issues that other experienced programmers do not always find. It’s not like they are vibecoding a messages app.

What do you mean "why"? For the exact reason he stated in his first paragraph - a serious regression impacting his workflow.

Re: GrapheneOS' rewritten Messages app is released

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I constantly see those projects that would benefit from a screenshot in a readme, but for some reason the thought about adding one doesn't even come to the authors' mind, even though it's pretty obvious. I'd really like to know what's going on.

I think in many cases the authors value functionality much more then esthetics. Which is a bummer because it is a complete different point of view from the more typical user experience

Yeah but see, we're talking about a functionality that is inherently visual. Ergonomics has nothing to do with esthetics, and it's such a dumb excuse to hand wave aside interface issues as of they are just about "making things look pretty"

Re: GrapheneOS' rewritten Messages app is released

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I constantly see those projects that would benefit from a screenshot in a readme, but for some reason the thought about adding one doesn't even come to the authors' mind, even though it's pretty obvious. I'd really like to know what's going on.

I think in many cases the authors value functionality much more then esthetics. Which is a bummer because it is a complete different point of view from the more typical user experience

> I think in many cases the authors value functionality much more then esthetics.

In many cases the repository isn't meant to be more than for source code too, not everyone use their git repository as also the marketing page, that'd go somewhere else.

With that said, grapheneos.org doesn't seem to have any screenshots either, which I also don't understand and think is a bummer. Even though the point of the differences with GrapheneOS might not be mainly visual, just showing what it looks like seem like a no-brainer.

Re: GrapheneOS' rewritten Messages app is released

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Everytime I read GrapheneOS news I search for news related to Fairephone. It's such a shame that there's still no official plan for Fairephone to work on requirements for GrapheneOS. The combination of those 2 would be fantastic. It would also open a big new market (I assume) for Fairephone so not sure why there seems no clear sign in that direction at all (to my knowledge).
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