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Re: Show HN: Toast, a beautiful by default in terminal IDE

#11
First file I look at (concerning):

"github.com/yourusername/toast/internal/components/breadcrumbs" "github.com/yourusername/toast/internal/components/closedialog" "github.com/yourusername/toast/internal/components/commandpalette" "github.com/yourusername/toast/internal/components/editor"

Re: Show HN: Toast, a beautiful by default in terminal IDE

#12

> "No AI features" > Sees "Claude" Now almost 90% of projects on GitHub including existing projects are now slop or are adding slop. Many projects are getting contaminated with AI, and even Linux is getting contaminated with this. There is a list of projects that have non-slop alternatives one can use instead. https://codeberg.org/ethical-foss/open-slopware

Do you count any use of LLMs, including highly reviewed and controlled use as "slop"?

The idea that there can be no high quality use of LLMs to aid software development is lacking a lot of nuance.

Re: Show HN: Toast, a beautiful by default in terminal IDE

#13

Looks like another unreadable black hole of nothingness. God, I wish this trend would hurry up and run its course.

Ironically, I understand what the "unreadable black hole of nothingness" is perfectly. But I have no idea what your comment means.

hard to argue that the UBHON is a recurring theme these days! rimshot

Re: Show HN: Toast, a beautiful by default in terminal IDE

#14
post #7

The "Emacs doesn't have a file-tree" is when I stopped short and wondered what this person's background is in IDEs. My emacs days are 1999 during my "functional or get out" phase, but my .emacs had close to 4000 lines in it, including xterm mouse support, a clone of midnight commander + sftp to a wehbost and deep integration with ctags/cscope/c++filt. There was even a line by line debugger with custom .gdbinit comman…

I’m surprised you wouldn’t use TRAMP for remote access then?

Re: Show HN: Toast, a beautiful by default in terminal IDE

#16
post #12

> "No AI features" > Sees "Claude" Now almost 90% of projects on GitHub including existing projects are now slop or are adding slop. Many projects are getting contaminated with AI, and even Linux is getting contaminated with this. There is a list of projects that have non-slop alternatives one can use instead. https://codeberg.org/ethical-foss/open-slopware

Do you count any use of LLMs, including highly reviewed and controlled use as "slop"? The idea that there can be no high quality use of LLMs to aid software development is lacking a lot of nuance.

The files (even the go.mod) contain references to "yourusername". You can be certain this project's LLM use was not highly reviewed and controlled.

Re: Show HN: Toast, a beautiful by default in terminal IDE

#17

> "No AI features" > Sees "Claude" Now almost 90% of projects on GitHub including existing projects are now slop or are adding slop. Many projects are getting contaminated with AI, and even Linux is getting contaminated with this. There is a list of projects that have non-slop alternatives one can use instead. https://codeberg.org/ethical-foss/open-slopware

I wish you luck on your quest to avoid all of the software on that list.

Re: Show HN: Toast, a beautiful by default in terminal IDE

#18
post #12

> "No AI features" > Sees "Claude" Now almost 90% of projects on GitHub including existing projects are now slop or are adding slop. Many projects are getting contaminated with AI, and even Linux is getting contaminated with this. There is a list of projects that have non-slop alternatives one can use instead. https://codeberg.org/ethical-foss/open-slopware

Do you count any use of LLMs, including highly reviewed and controlled use as "slop"? The idea that there can be no high quality use of LLMs to aid software development is lacking a lot of nuance.

If it is high quality use, we would not notice the AI. It would just be good code.

Re: Show HN: Toast, a beautiful by default in terminal IDE

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post #12

> "No AI features" > Sees "Claude" Now almost 90% of projects on GitHub including existing projects are now slop or are adding slop. Many projects are getting contaminated with AI, and even Linux is getting contaminated with this. There is a list of projects that have non-slop alternatives one can use instead. https://codeberg.org/ethical-foss/open-slopware

Do you count any use of LLMs, including highly reviewed and controlled use as "slop"? The idea that there can be no high quality use of LLMs to aid software development is lacking a lot of nuance.

> Do you count any use of LLMs, including highly reviewed and controlled use as "slop"?

Yes.

To quote the repository:

"slop: Anything generated by AI, typically code, books, articles, or images."

If you are reviewing AI generated code, you are already reviewing slop which is a lose-lose situation.

Re: Show HN: Toast, a beautiful by default in terminal IDE

#20
> toast is for the developer who wants to stay in their terminal without spending hours getting it up to snuff.

I need a terminal that just works. If it doesn't work out of the box with sensible defaults, it is indeed not up to snuff, and therefore thrown away immediately. Don't ask me to use your buggy-vibe coded thing if it's not up to snuff, right?

This is coming from someone who did spend hundreds of hours learning to customize their terminal, their vim environment, and put all of it in source control to rot away.

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