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OpenAI considers slowing advanced AI development, Sam Altman tells employees

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Re: OpenAI considers slowing advanced AI development, Sam Altman tells employees

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Post by mannanj »

The big psyop/trick is that "AI development has to slow down" and not that we hit limits with the technology or the technology is immature.

Either way it's a win-win for whoever sells that message because you make the makers and the warners the center of attention. And when they say "we are considering slowing down" they mean "if we get enough money to slow down we'll do it". And of course they never want you to think AI is a technology employed by humans who need be changed, not the technology. So as long as you engage this massive straw man to focus on the wrong thing you do nothing to hold the leaders accountable for their harmful and selfish actions and decisions for society.

Re: OpenAI considers slowing advanced AI development, Sam Altman tells employees

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Post by bpodgursky »

manmal wrote: post #30
reticulates wrote: post #19

After eating his 65th hot dog, Joey Chestnut reassures Nathan's Famous International Hot Dog Eating Contest organizers he will stop at 66 to ensure they don’t run out of hot dogs

It is a convenient time, just as coding capability seems to reach the upper end of the S curve.

? What world are you living on.

Re: OpenAI considers slowing advanced AI development, Sam Altman tells employees

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Post by mofeien »

TFNA wrote: post #11
ajam1507 wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It doesn't have to be a race, that's just the way we have been treating it so far. There have been examples in the past of civilization ending technology that has been redirected from being a death race (chemical, biological, and nuclear arms in particular.)

China doesn't regard AI as a death race. It regards it as a way to ensure its own global stature and benefit its own population.

China has stricter regulations on models than the US. For example you can't release a model if the hallucination rate is above a certain threshold.

The US hasn't fully woken up to the fact yet that the race to superintelligence is a death race. China (population, members of the government, academics, lab employees) could also just not have fully grasped it yet. I'm personally confident that it will be possible to explain it to them.

Re: OpenAI considers slowing advanced AI development, Sam Altman tells employees

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Post by deepwoods »

andsoitis wrote: post #5
minimaxir wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They will if it becomes a political issue that causes regulation, which is looking likely.

Geopolitics gets in the way. It is a race between America and China. There's no way to know what is "safe enough", so you might as well go as fast as technology will allow, and be on the watch out for negative things you can predict specifically and then adapt so as to minimize net negatives.

Granted I can only read English, but I find that I constantly see this take from Americans and I have never seen anything to suggest that developers and tech leaders in China actually feel this way. But just based on the models that come out, it seems like the Chinese labs - which, funny enough, are less monolithic than the two-man race in the US where the two giants seem to trade personnel regularly - are trying to make smaller, more efficient models rather than building a machine god. To the extent there is an intentional geopolitical angle to this at all, it seems like the US is banking on landing one massive punch - developing a superintelligence and then using it to dominate the world - while China is attempting to sabotage the assumptions that make a superintelligence economically viable.

I am curious what it would look like if the shoe was on the other foot, though. If China had the lead, and Qwen 4 was an Astra class model and the best US model was only as good as Kimi K3, would US commentators call it AGI?

Re: OpenAI considers slowing advanced AI development, Sam Altman tells employees

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Post by keeshond »

ajam1507 wrote: post #8
andsoitis wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Geopolitics gets in the way. It is a race between America and China. There's no way to know what is "safe enough", so you might as well go as fast as technology will allow, and be on the watch out for negative things you can predict specifically and then adapt so as to minimize net negatives.

It doesn't have to be a race, that's just the way we have been treating it so far. There have been examples in the past of civilization ending technology that has been redirected from being a death race (chemical, biological, and nuclear arms in particular.)

even if both sides agree to a pause china will annihilate the us in the robotics race (for which there will be no slowdown). software/llms is america's only edge

Re: OpenAI considers slowing advanced AI development, Sam Altman tells employees

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Post by qsort »

swingandamiss wrote: post #25

Why do you on HN want AI to slow down (mainly OpenAI and Anthropic from what I see in the comments)? What's the driving force behind your opinions on this?

Humans not dying would be an excellent feature for the future to have. Not a hard requirement though, we'll see if there are some story points left in the sprint.

Re: OpenAI considers slowing advanced AI development, Sam Altman tells employees

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Post by chis »

manmal wrote: post #30
reticulates wrote: post #19

After eating his 65th hot dog, Joey Chestnut reassures Nathan's Famous International Hot Dog Eating Contest organizers he will stop at 66 to ensure they don’t run out of hot dogs

It is a convenient time, just as coding capability seems to reach the upper end of the S curve.

HN comments are just on a different planet lately lol
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