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Re: Claude is only available to people over 18 years

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Post by onion2k »

pendenthistory wrote: post #212
onion2k wrote: post #62

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No one has lost anything though. AI is useful, but it's mostly just a shortcut. It removes the need to learn and to spend time and effort doing something. That's great, but you can still do the same work without it, especially if a creative pursuit that's something you're doing for fun.

My kid very much enjoys building things with claude. Things he could never have built without it. He learns a lot about technology as he does this. What right do you have (or Anthropic) to take that away from him? Because of vibes? You could have easily banned everything from TV to PCs and video games completely with this kind of attitude.

Access to AI isn't a right (yet). Anthropic can choose who to sell it to, and if that's not you then bad luck. They don't need a right to do that; they can just do it because it's their product and they get to say who can buy it.

This is a reason why local open weights models are important. No one is taking Gemma 4B away from me, because I run it on my own hardware.

Re: Claude is only available to people over 18 years

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Post by Waterluvian »

superxpro12 wrote: post #383
Waterluvian wrote: post #317

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I'm imagining a future where a bunch of bizarre laws interact oddly (as they do), and now we've got websites with unnecessary nudity pasted in the corner. "Oh, those? Those are just compliance tits. Ignore those. It's just a thing that came a few years after we finally got rid of the cookie banners. The companies wanted certain protections awarded only to 18+ sites. But you can't just declare yourself an 18+ site, so…

and its 1 pixel wide. I propose the term pixtit

Also the Dixel for the male option.

Re: Claude is only available to people over 18 years

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Post by itintheory »

sicktriple wrote: post #380
itintheory wrote: post #357

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Whose cause? I think the government already has our IDs, given that they issued them.

The government isn't typically facilitating the check. In order to verify your age, you will be required to hand over your ID to a third party, who's privacy and security practices are likely: "Trust me bro." Seeing as how these companies get hacked all the time, ( https://krebsonsecurity.com/2026/09/fbi-probes-service-selli... ) , I don't think it's unreasonable to resist this. Furthermore, I think many folks have r…

Right, I'm not a fan of the ID check or identity/age verification. I'm just trying to understand the conspiracy theory kind of idea that "they're trying to get all our IDs!!!1!!" sentiment.

Re: Claude is only available to people over 18 years

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Post by lmc »

p-e-w wrote: post #360
lmc wrote: post #241

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Decent therapists advocate for cultivating resilience for such situations.

Decent physicians do the same: “And the next time you feel your heart going out of rhythm, just hold your breath, and remember I will see you again a couple of weeks from now.” Ah wait, no they don’t, because “resilience” is a worthless concept in emergencies, both mental and physical.

The point is to try and limit what becomes an emergency in the first place. Having an argument with a spouse shouldn't necessitate an immediate call to a therapist.

Re: Claude is only available to people over 18 years

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Post by asadotzler »

embedding-shape wrote: post #376
cyanydeez wrote: post #204

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you think knowing whether a user is 18 or older is more valuable than browser/cli/network finger prints? Truly naive is the mirror you're looking into. We agree these are useless contrivances, but positing constantly that "this is just some great surveillance game" as opposed to the offloading of government responsibilities to private industry in the hope of removing all social regulatory liabilities? Naive is how yo…

> you think knowing whether a user is 18 or older is more valuable than browser/cli/network finger prints? Why have this sort of argument/"come back" become so popular on HN? Where you learned to reply/debate, reddit? Did I ever make such a claim anywhere in this submission? Maybe try actually responding to something I've said rather than just creating your own imaginary arguments no one said.

It's been a slow decline for about 15 years. It's as if the median age went from about 23 to about 15.

Re: Claude is only available to people over 18 years

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Post by trunnell »

Watch for ChatGPT to follow soon.

I wonder how related this is to the social media legal settlement. It wouldn't be surprising if they weighed the potential liability of serving minors and decided it wasn't worth the risk, at least for now.

Also, cheating in high school is a really big problem, so this might help a little.

Re: Claude is only available to people over 18 years

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Post by rirze »

mayhemducks wrote: post #195

Need we remind Anthropic of the 153 million drirvers licenses available for sale on the dark web thanks to a 3rd party ID verification service? https://krebsonsecurity.com/2026/09/fbi-probes-service-selli... The fact that Anthropic only receives a result, not the data itself, does not make me feel any better about this. I really wish we could leave these types of decisions up to parents and parents only. Leave the co…

Unfortunately we live in a litigious society. The more you observe, you'll see that companies and government make decisions to reduce culpability and offload risk.

Re: Claude is only available to people over 18 years

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Post by trunnell »

embedding-shape wrote: post #33

Claude Executive: Damn, we hardly know who our users are, can't we just force them to say their full name or ban them? Claude Product Manager: No, that'll piss people off too much, and sadly we can't just ask for ID either... Claude Executive: There must be some way we can force people to link their government IDs with our platform so our analytics get better and more accurate? Claude Product Manager: We could limit…

I can tell you don't know anyone at Anthropic.

Re: Claude is only available to people over 18 years

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Post by asadotzler »

1dom wrote: post #175
scronkfinkle wrote: post #63

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I think you may be misunderstanding a bit. There's no forced verification. It'd be more of an RFC that gives parents the ability to communicate their underage child is using the device without revealing or verifying any further information. Or do you suspect that giving any ground will cause the ID verification and centralized behavior?

I think you need to explain the solution you're thinking of in detail. "an RFC that gives parents the ability to communicate their underage child is using the device without revealing or verifying any further information." is no different to "turn on age lock?" that you see on website now. It requires the parent to be present, engaged and 1 step ahead of their kids, and if we could depend on that, then we wouldn't ev…

He was saying, vendors put that flag in the OS and parents set that flag in the OS and internet services respect that flag from the OS. No website anything, all in the OS. No staying ahead of anything, one and done. This, as noted above, requires that services respect the flag, which they do not universally do today. That requires legislation, something that will be a part of any workable solution.
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