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Houthis 'take control' of key island in global shipping route

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Will this bring oil prices down in Europe? Oil tankers could still go to the mediteranian via the suez canal. This will not help asia, but I can imagine if it is too dangerous the go through bab al-mandab strait it is more lucrative to sell the crude oil to europe at a discount?

This is part of the Houthis preventing Saudi Arabia from exporting any oil at all. So no I don’t think it’s gonna make oil lower. Higher probably. But oil is doing very weird things.

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> At this point, the Houthis control Yemen. BBC and the gang are just promoting Western propaganda by pretending otherwise. News media generally report the de iure situation, not the de facto situation. And de iure , Yemen still has a regular government, and the Houthi are a bunch of rebels.

de iure - Original classic Latin spelling. Lovely.

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Why all the quotation marks in the article? It's not like they interviewed toddlers that said funny things.

When I moved from the US to the UK, the use of quotation marks in news headlines was something that confused me. In the US, these would be "scare quote", with the quotation marks basically standing in for the words "so-called". In the UK, that is NOT their meaning. The quotation marks mean "we are not ourselves in a position to verify this, but it is the words that a source has told us". Very different meaning -- and…

Huh? That's how quotation marks are used here in the US too

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is completely standard journalistic practice when reporting a quote on something that is currently contentious or unproven. For example, consider the two hypothetical headlines: Activists decry police murder of protester Activists decry police "murder" of protester The first implies that the police murdering the protestor is an established fact. The second makes it clear that it is the activists who used the ter…

In that case, that seems like a variation of the "past exonerative tense".

Do you consider every trial defendant to be exonerated?

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post #16

Will this bring oil prices down in Europe? Oil tankers could still go to the mediteranian via the suez canal. This will not help asia, but I can imagine if it is too dangerous the go through bab al-mandab strait it is more lucrative to sell the crude oil to europe at a discount?

most large tankers are too large for both the Suez and Panama Canals.

There are tankers built specifically for the Suez Canal

Re: Houthis 'take control' of key island in global shipping route

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Why all the quotation marks in the article? It's not like they interviewed toddlers that said funny things.

This is completely standard journalistic practice when reporting a quote on something that is currently contentious or unproven. For example, consider the two hypothetical headlines: Activists decry police murder of protester Activists decry police "murder" of protester The first implies that the police murdering the protestor is an established fact. The second makes it clear that it is the activists who used the ter…

Both versions are fancifully direct in our era a media+police stenography, try:

Mayor denounces "radical activists" rioting and damaging city property in response to an officer-involved incident that resulted in one fatal kinetic altercation with a "loud and provocatively dressed" man.

Re: Houthis 'take control' of key island in global shipping route

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Will this bring oil prices down in Europe? Oil tankers could still go to the mediteranian via the suez canal. This will not help asia, but I can imagine if it is too dangerous the go through bab al-mandab strait it is more lucrative to sell the crude oil to europe at a discount?

> Will this bring oil prices down in Europe ... This will not help Asia This hurts Europe more than Asia. The UK, France, Italy, Netherlands, Denmark, and others are similarly opposed to the Houthis having conducted airstrikes on the Houthis (eg. 2025) as well as helping target them directly or indirectly. And a large portion of global shipping is owned by Greek conglomerates - a country that is a close ally of Israe…

Yeah the EU leadership has been really shortsighted on these past decades (especially since the 10s), especially in their strategic energy and industrial sectors.

Be it the Ukranian conflict, the ME crisis, the NA wars and instabilities, etc. The EU is the one that geopolitically speaking lost the most.

Unless they're full puppets for foreign interests, I simply do not understand how they could leave foreign actors to dictate policies that affect thier own territory and enterprises without any sort of critical thought.

But even then, they could not have possibly been all mere puppets. And yet.

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