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Re: Claude is only available to people over 18 years

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Post by win311fwg »

Cthulhu_ wrote: post #119
embedding-shape wrote: post #33

Claude Executive: Damn, we hardly know who our users are, can't we just force them to say their full name or ban them? Claude Product Manager: No, that'll piss people off too much, and sadly we can't just ask for ID either... Claude Executive: There must be some way we can force people to link their government IDs with our platform so our analytics get better and more accurate? Claude Product Manager: We could limit…

Age verification is not (should not be) the same as ID verification / storage / etc; the US needs laws similar to EU ones where companies can only get the minimum required PII. In the case of age verification that's zero, or a boolean value "yes this person is over 18" that they get from a trusted party like a bank.

> from a trusted party like a bank.

For what reason should I trust a bank?

Re: Claude is only available to people over 18 years

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Post by groundzeros2015 »

vova_hn2 wrote: post #137
embedding-shape wrote: post #33

Claude Executive: Damn, we hardly know who our users are, can't we just force them to say their full name or ban them? Claude Product Manager: No, that'll piss people off too much, and sadly we can't just ask for ID either... Claude Executive: There must be some way we can force people to link their government IDs with our platform so our analytics get better and more accurate? Claude Product Manager: We could limit…

> And we hardly have any users younger than 18 anyway, go for it! I doubt that this statement is true.

Paying customers?

Re: Claude is only available to people over 18 years

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Post by mdp2021 »

azan_ wrote: post #72
matheusmoreira wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's dehumanizing because it feels like you're an incomplete human with no agency. When I was a teenager, there was nothing I hated more than obnoxious adults deciding for me what I could or couldn't do. I did literally everything in my power to circumvent them.

Children absolutely should have less agency than adults.

"Minors" should have less agency than adults, but the state of "minor" vs adult does not follow the plain age. (And of course there exist many dimensions of maturity.)

(In fact, in some educational systems, the final examination in pre-University schools is called "Maturity test".)

Re: Claude is only available to people over 18 years

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Post by [deleted] »

sam-cop-vimes wrote: post #185
embedding-shape wrote: post #33

Claude Executive: Damn, we hardly know who our users are, can't we just force them to say their full name or ban them? Claude Product Manager: No, that'll piss people off too much, and sadly we can't just ask for ID either... Claude Executive: There must be some way we can force people to link their government IDs with our platform so our analytics get better and more accurate? Claude Product Manager: We could limit…

This seems like a lazy snipe. They clearly state that they receive only an age verification result and none of the personal data. It would take collusion from both sides to silently enable transfer of user data while publicly stating that they don't. I have used these KYC services before. There is the option to get access to all user data - but unless there is evidence to the contrary, we have to take their word for…

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Re: Claude is only available to people over 18 years

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Post by alansaber »

embedding-shape wrote: post #33

Claude Executive: Damn, we hardly know who our users are, can't we just force them to say their full name or ban them? Claude Product Manager: No, that'll piss people off too much, and sadly we can't just ask for ID either... Claude Executive: There must be some way we can force people to link their government IDs with our platform so our analytics get better and more accurate? Claude Product Manager: We could limit…

Age verification is the silver bullet for personal data collection. Open internet enthusiasts hate this one simple trick!

Re: Claude is only available to people over 18 years

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Post by Joel_Mckay »

onlyrealcuzzo wrote: post #179
ssijak wrote: post #172

So we get actual mega useful tech banned for minors before we get ultimate useless brain damaging tech (social networks) banned for minors.

I agree with you - but there's also a lot of people that think AI is just brainrot - maybe worse, so, there's that...

Indeed, and then there are dozens of grieving families from folks driven mad by LLM helping murder their children.

LLM use makes people feel more productive, but provably most lose 17% of their core skills performance. Also, homework cheats improved scores at some schools, but saw 35% drop in exam scores. LLM literally makes young people dumber.

We should never kink shame adult cognitive dildo choices. As the same folks sound like a tobacco lobbyist marketing kicker. =3

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deaths_linked_to_chatbots

Re: Claude is only available to people over 18 years

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Post by alansaber »

mayhemducks wrote: post #195

Need we remind Anthropic of the 153 million drirvers licenses available for sale on the dark web thanks to a 3rd party ID verification service? https://krebsonsecurity.com/2026/09/fbi-probes-service-selli... The fact that Anthropic only receives a result, not the data itself, does not make me feel any better about this. I really wish we could leave these types of decisions up to parents and parents only. Leave the co…

Admittedly it's not as if the government is immune to massive data leaks either

Re: Claude is only available to people over 18 years

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Post by nonethewiser »

embedding-shape wrote: post #33

Claude Executive: Damn, we hardly know who our users are, can't we just force them to say their full name or ban them? Claude Product Manager: No, that'll piss people off too much, and sadly we can't just ask for ID either... Claude Executive: There must be some way we can force people to link their government IDs with our platform so our analytics get better and more accurate? Claude Product Manager: We could limit…

It’s OK to age gate some services. Its not all a conspiracy to steal your data.

Re: Claude is only available to people over 18 years

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Post by pendenthistory »

zoobab wrote: post #258
pendenthistory wrote: post #209

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would vibe coding be harmful? Nobody can know that. That's like saying compilers are harmful for kids in the 90s, they have to learn assembly or NOTHING.

It's a sarcastic joke, similar to what the lobby managed to put in the head of our politicians with social networks being "harmful" for kids.

You may be joking but there are plenty of people in this thread that basically believe this
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