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The Waymo effect: how AI is quietly making research less collaborative

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Re: The Waymo effect: how AI is quietly making research less collaborative

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with AI, one person can accomplish much more collaboration adds overhead, but expands what's possible. need to think bigger to continue to see the benefits

Do we really need to have this debate again? About how the quality of the “what” is the issue?

Re: The Waymo effect: how AI is quietly making research less collaborative

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post #3

There's a general point here which is that the primary use and appeal of AI is to use it to avoid the negative side effects imposed on you by other people. The flip side is the people with the biggest problems with AI are those that survive by imposing themselves on others in unnecessary ways, which is why so many bureaucrats are so enthused about regulating it.

Right all those people protesting outside data centres are bureaucrats? This is a ridiculous take, large swaths of the population are against AI, most people are concerned about resource use, their livelihoods, and a destruction of the human element in so many crafts.

> Right all those people protesting outside data centres are bureaucrats?

Not what was claimed.

Re: The Waymo effect: how AI is quietly making research less collaborative

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I'm pretty baffled by people I hear here and there saying that AI is great because it saves them the hassle of human interaction. "I love Waymo, I don't have to chit-chat with the driver and bear his horrible music". Apparently people didn't get the memo : humans are social animals. Autonomous individuals simply don't exist. Nothing is entirely yours... And AI precisely builds upon that large availability of our comm…

This falls short because not being forced into chit-chat and music is very pleasant, but chatting with LLMs instead of collaborating with other people on a project is not. These aren't equivalents.

>humans are social animals

with varying social needs

Re: The Waymo effect: how AI is quietly making research less collaborative

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This article is written by an LLM, by the way. ("Quietly" is... as Claude might put it... "often the quiet tell".)

This comment was perhaps written by an LLM that has learned it can karma farm by pointing out all of the articles that have LLM usage while everyone still thinks that is a novel contribution.

People aren't treating it as a thoughtful contribution. It is more of a flag, like "spam".

Re: The Waymo effect: how AI is quietly making research less collaborative

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post #11

I'm pretty baffled by people I hear here and there saying that AI is great because it saves them the hassle of human interaction. "I love Waymo, I don't have to chit-chat with the driver and bear his horrible music". Apparently people didn't get the memo : humans are social animals. Autonomous individuals simply don't exist. Nothing is entirely yours... And AI precisely builds upon that large availability of our comm…

A whole idea of a fleet of self driving cars for all of us to use just to further isolate ourselves and clog up our roads is just awful to me.

Re: The Waymo effect: how AI is quietly making research less collaborative

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post #4

This article is written by an LLM, by the way. ("Quietly" is... as Claude might put it... "often the quiet tell".)

This comment was perhaps written by an LLM that has learned it can karma farm by pointing out all of the articles that have LLM usage while everyone still thinks that is a novel contribution.

In the spirit of the "That's what she said" bot, you could train an LLM detector by accusing everything of being authored by an LLM and seeing which ones get voted up.

Re: The Waymo effect: how AI is quietly making research less collaborative

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For software developers, the equivalent is writing software without beta testers. If you don’t seek out users, you will likely build something nobody else wants.

And, that’s what I do. I’m retired and I use AI to build websites for myself. If anyone else ends up using it, that will be a happy side-effect.

If we want to do collaboration, we are going to need to do it intentionally rather than relying on side effects like conversations with cab drivers.

Re: The Waymo effect: how AI is quietly making research less collaborative

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post #3

There's a general point here which is that the primary use and appeal of AI is to use it to avoid the negative side effects imposed on you by other people. The flip side is the people with the biggest problems with AI are those that survive by imposing themselves on others in unnecessary ways, which is why so many bureaucrats are so enthused about regulating it.

using AI makes an individual more capable and empowered. this views AI as an accessible tool, like AWS or a nail gun

individual empowerment threatens institutions

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