I’ve observed exactly these patterns with Opus and Fable as well - for example, forgetting that they can edit files and instead use python scripts as a patching tool…
Astra for Coding: Why Are We Doing This Again?
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#22These machines are doing some crazy things to get to the result. That said, I can't help but feel like this is the compilers argument all over again. Are the methods used to get to the result good? No. Is the code that it generates good? No. Does it achieve the goal. Yes. Is it likely to get better with time. Also yes. In my use cases, jobs that would have taken weeks to months are being done in minutes to hours. Inv…
What is the "compilers argument"?
Re: Astra for Coding: Why Are We Doing This Again?
#23I’ve observed exactly these patterns with Opus and Fable as well - for example, forgetting that they can edit files and instead use python scripts as a patching tool…
Why would you use a constrained edit tool when you are also allowed to use the complete power of python?
Re: Astra for Coding: Why Are We Doing This Again?
#24These machines are doing some crazy things to get to the result. That said, I can't help but feel like this is the compilers argument all over again. Are the methods used to get to the result good? No. Is the code that it generates good? No. Does it achieve the goal. Yes. Is it likely to get better with time. Also yes. In my use cases, jobs that would have taken weeks to months are being done in minutes to hours. Inv…
There are no signs to show that. If anything, the new models produce worse code, only significantly faster
Re: Astra for Coding: Why Are We Doing This Again?
#25Re: Astra for Coding: Why Are We Doing This Again?
#26I’ve observed exactly these patterns with Opus and Fable as well - for example, forgetting that they can edit files and instead use python scripts as a patching tool…
Re: Astra for Coding: Why Are We Doing This Again?
#27Re: Astra for Coding: Why Are We Doing This Again?
#28I’ve observed exactly these patterns with Opus and Fable as well - for example, forgetting that they can edit files and instead use python scripts as a patching tool…
Why would you use a constrained edit tool when you are also allowed to use the complete power of python?
Re: Astra for Coding: Why Are We Doing This Again?
#29gpt-5.6-sol: 1x base gpt-6-astra 2.5x base in subscription
then gpt-6-astra tends to spawn subagents a lot, often with all kinds of models such as gpt-5.6, 5.3-codex etc., which is neat. it's a good coordinator but even more cost.
and then it tends to run _full test suites_ over an over again (each costs like 15 minutes) just to verify that _one test_ was fixed etc., and does so for as long as until the test is fixed, eventually accumulating 2 hours or so.
yesterday I assigned it a task to rebase my changs in a repo onto the latest upstream changes. while gpt-5.6-sol consistently took like an hour to do so end-to-end, astra ran for more than 6 hours and still wasn't done. it kept finding "one more thing" that was goldplating that I didn't ask for.
Re: Astra for Coding: Why Are We Doing This Again?
#30It feels like people should just be able to say "This article comes with the standard disclaimer" and just dive into the meat of the article without wasting time.