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Looking at the Agents API, it seems like it offers similar capabilities, but reduces the need for hosting? So I get it from a business standpoint, but hosting a python service is very easy now a days, so I don't see the point as a consumer.
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> building your own harness is a huge undertaking, a deep rabbit hole. I eventually gave up on this task. It's not possible to fight OpenAI or Anthropic's engineering teams. Their reasoning models have all kinds of undocumented back door access to the base models that you'd never be able to replicate from the outside. Even if you had full access you would not have the engineering man hours or experience to keep up. I…
Yet i find claude code worse than opencode.
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> LLMs are a great foundation but building your own harness is a huge undertaking, a deep rabbit hole I’ve been doing this for the past few months. I started with a server where I ran pi in tmux and then used that to build an LLM gateway and agent session manager, then built deterministic workflows using bash scripts and a skill/script distribution system. The app works on desktop, mobile and web and it works great.…
I also use Luna and DeepSeek in a custom harness. (Mine is very minimal.) GLM also works great. I had issues with some other models but it seems to do with the system prompt and tool calling format. Some models seem to only work well with some harnesses.
well im shit out of ideas now this was literally what i was working on for the past few months
I think we’re still figuring out the right abstraction for offering agents as a product. - LLMs are a great foundation but building your own harness is a huge undertaking, a deep rabbit hole. - There are harnesses available as open source libraries but that’s still coupled to an environment. Where does the state persist? Like maybe I’m a Cloudflare worker and don’t even have a file system. Agent as a service like thi…
Also yes to an open runtime.
I've had great success with the OpenAI agents SDK [0]. This way I've been able to build the sandbox + slack + knowledge-bank integrations independently and be very strict with what I expose to OpenAI. Looking at the Agents API, it seems like it offers similar capabilities, but reduces the need for hosting? So I get it from a business standpoint, but hosting a python service is very easy now a days, so I don't see the…