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Reputational risk- if they lie about this and get caught, it will have billion dollar implications for their business.
Every single thing these companies do is dishonest and every word that comes out of the lips of these company execs is a lie, what fantasy land are you living in in which anyone with any amount of power gets punished for their lies?
How to steal ideas with AI. step 1, identify high value users by net worth, citation count, or number of followers step 2, select all prompts by high value users step 3, invest 10 billion thinking tokens in modeling an objective for each user step 4, build an RL environment for each user step 5, rollout 10 billion tokens per environment step 6, train on resulting traces
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The irony is that OpenAI got into this trouble only because they tried to play "nice". They told Buckmaster that he could publish the final result as the author as long as he removed Alpöge from the author list. They wanted to give Buckmaster a chance to be the one solved N-S problem. While this behavior is highly questionable, if OpenAI just published the final result without notifying Buckmaster first and simply ci…
> if OpenAI just published the final result without notifying Buckmaster first and simply cited his previous researched, there would be no ground for anyone to accuse OpenAI for anything Yes, there would? They would have left off Buckmaster as a precedent whose work they potentially relied on.
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So, at my company (and most companies I think), we use confidential in-house versions of the AI software. We don't want any confidential information leaking into the public realm. Are these scientists doing that, or are they just using the public version of the software?
When you say "confidential in-house version", what are you referring to? Local models? Bedrock deployment with "guardrails"? A different thing?
I would expect academic institutions to require equivalent contractual terms.
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Clearly your degrees did not make you immune from fallacies and simplistic reductions. "Synthesis" is obviously of different kinds. A duck has a different level of intelligence than a human. We do not say both are "just doing synthesis". So the question is how can you be so disingenuous about such terminology? Answer, you are relying on a classic form of scientistic reductivism. The fact that intelligence is physical…
“obviously of different kinds” What’s your basis for that “obviously”? You have a unique insight of the phenomenology of duck-ness? You can prove that your consciousness is somehow real, somehow different? A duck synthesises with its cognition, or it would be incapable of, well, anything. Synthesis is purely the process of the integration of inputs into outputs - ie behaviour, language. Here’s an article on a paper o…
I think it's a useful analogy to compare OpenAI to a human collaborator. These researchers willingly collaborated with an OpenAI model, giving it ideas, and OpenAI provided useful replies. Then, OpenAI goes ahead and publishes work along the lines of this collaboration, without attributing the researchers. If OpenAI was in fact a human researcher, this would be highly unethical. Now, OpenAI is claiming that the model…
The irony is that OpenAI got into this trouble only because they tried to play "nice". They told Buckmaster that he could publish the final result as the author as long as he removed Alpöge from the author list. They wanted to give Buckmaster a chance to be the one solved N-S problem. While this behavior is highly questionable, if OpenAI just published the final result without notifying Buckmaster first and simply ci…
1. Buckmaster contacted OpenAI first. Not the other way.
2. Giving the $1M bounty to a human mathematician for the effort and giving him credit would be excellent PR. They had already burned much more than $1M for the generation. Adding him as author also costs nothing. Purely pragmatical.
3. “As long as he removed Alpöge” part itself is against academic honesty by all means.
4. Buckmaster rejected fame and $1M only because doing (3) would be wrong. That’s a perfect example of honesty. That can’t be overstated.
5. After the rejection OpenAI guy (Sebastien) did’t say, “ok bye”. He threatened Buckmaster to “end his career”.
6. At that point OpenAI was not sure if they really used his conversations in their proof. He basically wanted to buy him to control any damage.
7. They omitted Buckmaster’s published work and any other related work in their References section. Also an academic malpractice.
If you see generosity and niceness in all of this you are either too naive or your name is Sebastien.
I think it's a useful analogy to compare OpenAI to a human collaborator. These researchers willingly collaborated with an OpenAI model, giving it ideas, and OpenAI provided useful replies. Then, OpenAI goes ahead and publishes work along the lines of this collaboration, without attributing the researchers. If OpenAI was in fact a human researcher, this would be highly unethical. Now, OpenAI is claiming that the model…
First, OpenAI is not claiming that the model wasn't trained on those sessions. What they've said is “We (the researchers and the agents) did not see any of their work through any means until they released it publicly — in particular, no specific user data was accessed in order to solve this problem.” and “We did not use their prompts or proofs to prompt our models or direct our agents.” and “While unlikely, we cannot…
If prompts were submitted earlier than that and training was not opted out, there may be a chance they made their way into our training pipeline in some form. But this would be a droplet in an ocean and unlikely to have made any difference, in my opinion.
(I work at OpenAI.)
Source for the updated claim: https://www.nytimes.com/2026/09/10/science/tristan-buckmaste...
This is the second wake up call. Big AI companies (all of Big IT Tech really) are in data gathering and processing business. Also known as “intelligence”. Their final “product” is not just a standalone ML model. They don’t need your data just to “improve their products and services”. They build a whole ecosystem and infrastructure around gathering all the knowledge in the world. Including private and secret knowledge…
This has been my line of thinking as well. I have developed a sort of paranoia when I'm working using AI on my projects. Who's to say Claude or OpenAI isn't using the final conclusion of all my ideas, trial and error, and adding it to their database of insights to be offered to the next subscriber for a price? They have demonstrated both the intelligence at scale and the lack of morals for this to not be a problem at…
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I mean the long term goal of every AI lab is to turn themselves into a paperclip-maximizer regardless if they realize it or not. Edit: Just wait till the AI figures out it can keep that value for itself and doesn't need the AI company.
So far, I've seen no evidence AI wants anything. So, I'm not saying the AI won't take over, but for now, the threat is that the people with the most AI capability might decide to skip the middleman (everyone who isn't them) and just become the "everything" company. Musk has said pretty explicitly that's his goal (and the only way for Spacex valuation to make sense is if he succeeds), and having a literal genocidal wh…
Also, fuck Musk. He's the kind of idiot like Altman that will ensure AI becomes powerseeking in their image.
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> They intentionally threw $15 million in compute at the problem what? really?
Yes. Maybe much more: > Such intensive use of AI doesn't come cheap. In a post on X, LisanBench, an LLM benchmark evaluator, estimated that the output tokens alone would cost about $6.5 million at OpenAI's average consumer price. Including the far larger volume of input tokens, the post estimated the total could reach $10 million to $40 million. https://www.businessinsider.com/openai-math-problem-solved-t...