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Apple is no longer thinking different

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Post by borghives »

_superposition_ wrote: post #29
mrhottakes wrote: post #2

Apple isn't really an innovator, at least in the sense of delivering "new" things. Their success is in assessing a market and refining products for consumer adoption. Mac wasn't the first personal computer but it was well-suited for the mass market, not just "computer people". iPod wasn't the first mp3 player but the first that was easy for regular folks to use. iPhone wasn't the first smartphone, but the first one t…

Yeah the pattern is "regular folks" enjoy reality tv too. Because they don't enjoy thinking. It's obviously trash but there's a market. I feel the same way about Apple. It's target market is uninformed users. Never purchased anything from them. Don't even get me started on the closed ecosystem. Admittedly Google/android has been closing in on that front but the initial intentions were good.

There is quite a leap from entertainment viewing choices to device gadget selection. It seems like a straw man to beat down and argue. My question is why? Why attached identity behind gadget choice? It is all marketing by large corporations in the end.

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Post by khazhoux »

alexfromapex wrote: post #13

I was not impressed with how wide the iPhone Duo is when folded closed. The whole idea is supposed to be something like a cell phone that expands to something like an iPad. They basically copied the Samsung Galaxy or similar phones with no real innovation.

This shows how Apple actually thought through the issue instead of just doing the most obvious thing. Because if you start with regular phone dimensions, then you wind up with basically a square screen when open, which is not natural and not useful.

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Post by armchairhacker »

Topology1 wrote: post #32
armchairhacker wrote: post #21

They did with Vision Pro, see how that turned out. But I will keep saying it, VR is the future.

I think you are right, but with how things are going it doesn't seem like it will be the near future.

GPU prices will eventually fall, either because production increases or AI companies stop buying (maybe they'll find a better processor).

Then AI lowers the very high cost and skill barrier needed to make a good VR game.

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Post by wyre »

_superposition_ wrote: post #29
mrhottakes wrote: post #2

Apple isn't really an innovator, at least in the sense of delivering "new" things. Their success is in assessing a market and refining products for consumer adoption. Mac wasn't the first personal computer but it was well-suited for the mass market, not just "computer people". iPod wasn't the first mp3 player but the first that was easy for regular folks to use. iPhone wasn't the first smartphone, but the first one t…

Yeah the pattern is "regular folks" enjoy reality tv too. Because they don't enjoy thinking. It's obviously trash but there's a market. I feel the same way about Apple. It's target market is uninformed users. Never purchased anything from them. Don't even get me started on the closed ecosystem. Admittedly Google/android has been closing in on that front but the initial intentions were good.

I think you're exhibiting a bunch of bias. The world's largest ad company purchasing a smartphone operating system to continue to collect information on their users to continue powering their ad network?

Apple technology is not "reality tv". Their target market is all consumers of technology. There are countless very informed users that prefer Apple (admitingly more are moving to Linux due to it being a stronger platform for agentic development).

If your single issue when making decisions is open vs closed ecosystems, sure, avoid Apple, but to call anyone that treats their technology use with more nuanced as "uninformed" is incorrect at best, and offensive at worst.

Re: Apple is no longer thinking different

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Post by jjbigs »

slac wrote: post #28
thepryz wrote: post #12

Seems a better question is who do you believe is actually innovating today? Apple has rarely been about providing bleeding edge technology to early adopters. They've always been more concerned with evaluating technology, often building things behind closed doors to explore and iterate, and then only releasing something once they felt it was ready and able to address a defined purpose or need. It's not first to market…

The iphone was bleeding edge... Of you disregard Neonode. But that is the only that comes to mind. The other bleeding edge has been the overall ecosystem around its product.

The iPhone is the perfect example of sitting back, evaluating the technology, and delivering a great product. The first to get it right strategy.

Numerous smart phones existed with email, text, call, and internet. iPhone just made it infinitely better. They also had the advantage of convincing carriers to start making money off data rather than text/minutes. This was a paradigm shift that allowed for full web browser to exist. It guzzled data, so carriers were fine subsidizing the phones and reap profits of data plans.

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