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What will our economic future look like?

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Re: What will our economic future look like?

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> Hey Anthropic: before we worry about raising GDP growth to 20%, maybe we focus on making blog posts that don't crash your browser window if you try to resize it? Have you tried disabling JavaScript? The simulations won't work of course, and there are some random large blank spaces; but the main content is completely readable and handles resizing without issue[0] even on my mid-range office PC from 2014. [0]: Just l…

"We're confident our technology will 10X GDP growth, we just need you to disable javascript first. That one we couldn't figure out."

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Re: What will our economic future look like?

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post #452

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Making everyone poor never made the world better.

Getting rid of the rich by taxing them and getting rid of legal and financial loopholes that allows them to operate outside of the system with absolutely no contributions back does not make everyone poor. In fact, it's the complete opposite. Reducing wealth inequality is not the same thing as making everyone poor. And you know that.

Lots of counterpoints. Peronist Argentina, France under Hollande, Canada from 2015-today, etc...

I live in Canada. Under the current government, business investment cratered, 40% of our 1% earners left and our GDP per capita relative to the US dropped by 40%.

Keep in mind that LLMs were basically invented in Canada and we've captured next to none of the economic activity.

Elon Musk, Ilya Sutskever, Andrej Karpathy and Geoffrey Hinton are all Canadian citizens lol...

Re: What will our economic future look like?

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It seems obvious that labor displacement due to AI will create labor surpluses in existing fields. Which will feel quite bad for many of us in the present, but net-net be good for society in the long run. Wages will go down, but cost of goods and services will decline even more. Markets will be more competitive than ever, which limits the moat/margin capability of many businesses. It's only really particularly bad fo…

What is obvious about that? What jobs are being created long term that can be filled by those displaced? To me it seems like even jobs that are not knowledge jobs are going to utilize ai to cut hiring, not grow it

When wages decline, cost of producing the service/good does down too. And when the costs go down, relative demand goes up.

When relative demand goes up, the total labor needed expands.

How many Uber rides would you take at $5 vs $20?

How many times would you eat out at $10 vs $50?

Would you pay for a house cleaner at $25/visit over $150/visit?

A live in nurse at 50k/year vs 200k?

The costs of all these things will decline materially when the labor pool expands meaningfully due to displacement.

Technology has always been deflationary in the long run throughout history.

Re: What will our economic future look like?

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Excuse for who? The nurse? The hospital administration? The hospital owners? The insurance company?

Your comment is how blame dissolving into the ether looks.

Then I suppose your reply should have said "all of them" ?

Re: What will our economic future look like?

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post #452

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Getting rid of the rich by taxing them and getting rid of legal and financial loopholes that allows them to operate outside of the system with absolutely no contributions back does not make everyone poor. In fact, it's the complete opposite. Reducing wealth inequality is not the same thing as making everyone poor. And you know that.

Lots of counterpoints. Peronist Argentina, France under Hollande, Canada from 2015-today, etc... I live in Canada. Under the current government, business investment cratered, 40% of our 1% earners left and our GDP per capita relative to the US dropped by 40%. Keep in mind that LLMs were basically invented in Canada and we've captured next to none of the economic activity. Elon Musk, Ilya Sutskever, Andrej Karpathy an…

> Under the current government, business investment cratered, 40% of our 1% earners left and our GDP per capita relative to the US dropped by 40%.

With the assumption that this is true (I have no idea either way), has it made people more poor or worse off?

Re: What will our economic future look like?

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post #465

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lots of counterpoints. Peronist Argentina, France under Hollande, Canada from 2015-today, etc... I live in Canada. Under the current government, business investment cratered, 40% of our 1% earners left and our GDP per capita relative to the US dropped by 40%. Keep in mind that LLMs were basically invented in Canada and we've captured next to none of the economic activity. Elon Musk, Ilya Sutskever, Andrej Karpathy an…

> Under the current government, business investment cratered, 40% of our 1% earners left and our GDP per capita relative to the US dropped by 40%. With the assumption that this is true (I have no idea either way), has it made people more poor or worse off?

https://www.statcan.gc.ca/hub-carrefour/quality-life-qualite...

You tell me. Median household (+ individuals not in an economic family) income went up $5k from 2015-2024. Given what you've experienced inflation wise in that time period what do you think?

US median household income went up $15k in that time period ($22k CAD), so >4x more.

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