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NY newspaper runs interactive map with names, addresses of gun permit holders

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Re: NY newspaper runs interactive map with names, addresses of gun permit holders

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Title should be: "NY newspaper runs interactive map with names, addresses of handgun permit holders"

You do not need to read beyond the first ten words to realize this:

"The map indicates the addresses of all pistol permit holders in Westchester and Rockland counties. Each dot represents an individual permit holder licensed to own a handgun — a pistol or revolver"

In order to have a rational debate on improving gun control we need to use words correctly...

Re: NY newspaper runs interactive map with names, addresses of gun permit holders

#4

The gun scare is getting ridiculous. Things like this make people think that anyone who owns a gun might just walk into a crowded place and start shooting.

And makes it easier for criminals to avoid houses with guns, thus putting the non gun population at risk.

Re: NY newspaper runs interactive map with names, addresses of gun permit holders

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post #4

The gun scare is getting ridiculous. Things like this make people think that anyone who owns a gun might just walk into a crowded place and start shooting.

And makes it easier for criminals to avoid houses with guns, thus putting the non gun population at risk.

Is there evidence or any cases of criminals doing informational background searches on their targets?

Re: NY newspaper runs interactive map with names, addresses of gun permit holders

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post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And makes it easier for criminals to avoid houses with guns, thus putting the non gun population at risk.

Is there evidence or any cases of criminals doing informational background searches on their targets?

Burglars routinely monitor the obituaries for dates of funerals to break into houses while the funeral is taking place.

For instance:

http://www.heraldnet.com/article/20120330/NEWS01/703309874

But there are many more examples of that. For criminals information is a competitive edge, just like for everybody else.

The safe bet is that they exploit that edge to the maximum of their abilities to increase their rewards.

Re: NY newspaper runs interactive map with names, addresses of gun permit holders

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In theory there should be nothing wrong with putting already-publicly available data online in a format digestible by the general public. The issue is that we put permit holders on a public list in the first place. These are law abiding citizens who have registered their guns legally. Making the information public, especially in stunts like this, does nothing but dissuade people from registering their firearms to avoid being targeted like criminals by overzealous neighbors and overeager journalists.

Re: NY newspaper runs interactive map with names, addresses of gun permit holders

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post #7

In theory there should be nothing wrong with putting already-publicly available data online in a format digestible by the general public. The issue is that we put permit holders on a public list in the first place. These are law abiding citizens who have registered their guns legally. Making the information public, especially in stunts like this, does nothing but dissuade people from registering their firearms to avo…

But at least they have guns to defend themselves!

Re: NY newspaper runs interactive map with names, addresses of gun permit holders

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post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And makes it easier for criminals to avoid houses with guns, thus putting the non gun population at risk.

Is there evidence or any cases of criminals doing informational background searches on their targets?

If a criminal can gather information about his target easily, simply and anonymously, it would be stupid for him (or her) not to do so.

AFAIK police departments everywhere have been advising people for at least five decades to be sure someone picks up your mail and newspapers if you're planning to be away, because criminals will realize that nobody lives in or checks up on a house if the mailbox is overflowing.

Haven't you ever seen the scene in the original "Home Alone" where the Wet Bandits are casing the neighborhood before they hit the houses?

Re: NY newspaper runs interactive map with names, addresses of gun permit holders

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post #4

The gun scare is getting ridiculous. Things like this make people think that anyone who owns a gun might just walk into a crowded place and start shooting.

And makes it easier for criminals to avoid houses with guns, thus putting the non gun population at risk.

A Swedish e-bay type of service recently got in trouble with the press for allowing private sellers of guns to post their phone numbers in the ads.

The reasoning behind this was that criminals could use the phone number to figure out where the sellers lived, and go steal their guns.

Funny how these things differ between places.

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