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You’ll know when they publish Visual R++ or Rust.NET.
you jest but F# already does the ocamlness of Rust, no? and you don't need a borrow checker.
Rust is tier-1 language at Microsoft
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Re: Rust is tier-1 language at Microsoft
#102If it is a tier-1 language why isn't it supported in Visual Studio?
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Rapid prototyping is almost a meme at this point. If you are hand rolling code old school, you will waste more time shoehorning JavaScript and python semantics into rust code and end up with worse quality that takes more time rather than writing it from rust. People did this a lot when rust was not as popular but there are plenty of very good rust programmers now who understand the language and can make programs that…
> Rapid prototyping is almost a meme at this point > People did this a lot when rust was not as popular but there are plenty of very good rust programmers now who understand the language and can make programs that are significantly more performance for a marginal development cost. Why isn't the game industry moving to it then? Bc it just cannot compete at volubility with C++, among other things. Yes, you can have ski…
Re: Rust is tier-1 language at Microsoft
#104I guess the big question is whether they are going to open up rustc_codegen_utc for use outside of Microsoft?
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There's two ways to approach this — build tooling for existing Rust developers to get them to adopt the Microsoft stack, or build tooling for existing Microsoft stack developers to get them to adopt Rust. I'd argue that the former is less important than the latter, and my understanding is that Visual Studio is still the IDE for Windows-centric development, so for those MS-first developers, Rust missing from VS means…
It would have to be the 2nd option. Who in their right mind would voluntarily choose Windows as their dev env? It will have to be those who are already there.
Re: Rust is tier-1 language at Microsoft
#106Good news they adopted Rust as Tier-1 language. I hope their Weather app stop consuming more than 1GB RAM https://www.notebookcheck.net/Windows-11-s-built-in-Weather-...
I feel like the weather app makes a lot of sense from a corporate politics point of view. A 1mb weather app would have a significantly less impressive pie chart associated with it come "here are our improvements" presentation. Also if times get tough and you're told to reduce headcount by 10%, who do you want to get rid of. Sally who knows the USB driver end to end or Todd who wrote the bloated 1gb weather app. (Don'…
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#107Re: Rust is tier-1 language at Microsoft
#108Link doesn’t work. What’s a Tier 1 language?
It means it's about as good as C++ ;)
Seems pretty good to me ;)
(I know you're joking).
Re: Rust is tier-1 language at Microsoft
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Yeah, I primarily use rust because it's got algebraic data types, pattern matching, and cargo. If ocaml had a cargo like experience, then I would migrate there.
I've said for a while that the main reason Rust is so popular is that it has a lot of effort put into the developer experience, with the low-level safety honestly not being all that important to a large portion of the programmers who would be fine with a garbage collector. I used to think that maybe a "Rust with garbage collector" would come along, but at this point it honestly seems more likely that an optional garb…
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Debugger MCP better
But of a tangent but I think cognitive skills are starting to become like physical skills. If we don’t move our bodies, we waste away physically. If we don’t do hard cognitive work sometimes - like writing and debugging code - I worry our minds will atrophy. I don’t have a problem with cars. But walking is still good for us.