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Defining AI Psychosis. Part 2: "Prolific AI Psychosis"

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Re: Defining AI Psychosis. Part 2: "Prolific AI Psychosis"

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Post by ActorNightly »

jonas21 wrote: post #30
ActorNightly wrote: post #15

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Back in the 2010s, the best, most efficient software engineers were characterized by 3 things * end to end rough map of the entire space of compute in their head * ability to search the internet for the right things * ability to quickly experiment and try things to figure out how to do things AI hasn't change that, it just made 2 and 3 into a very efficient thing. The characterization of psychosis is best described b…

> No modern LLM can "reason" - otherwise you could give it a task like "make me money", it would ask you all the questions it needs about information that it doesn't know about and needs to know to make you money, then it would set whatever it needs to set up to make you money. If that's your bar for reasoning, then most people can't reason either.

Its not that they cant, its that they are not motivated to.

Re: Defining AI Psychosis. Part 2: "Prolific AI Psychosis"

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Post by paimapi »

edgyquant wrote: post #46
altcognito wrote: post #23

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A bad business decision is not psychosis. Misjudging the value provided by a product is not psychosis.

Making bad financial decisions is a symptom of mania though

and when you look up what spending while having a manic episode looks like, does it resemble a layoff? or is it substantively different?

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Post by jdebre »

joe_the_user wrote: post #41
piloto_ciego wrote: post #22

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I have literal quantifiable output that supports the claim when I make it. I've literally been building tools for a customer of mine since January, and while it started out kind of slow, it's now paying my bills entirely every month. I am so busy baby sitting the robots and adding new projects on that I don't really have any time to find new customers right now? But I'm thinking I should have most of the stuff they'r…

I am so busy baby sitting the robots and adding new projects on that I don't really have any time to find new customers right now? That statement seems to somewhat fly against the statement you have unparalleled productivity. I feel like the way LLMs work involves them allowing you to do things you previously simply couldn't do but doing those tasks involves really a lot of effort at controlling the things. It's comp…

I'd source for where the signals are first, and do whatever it takes to stay there.

Re: Defining AI Psychosis. Part 2: "Prolific AI Psychosis"

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Post by piloto_ciego »

joe_the_user wrote: post #48
piloto_ciego wrote: post #43

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I'd say that I am the main problem. If I was a bit cleverer, or better at time management, I'd be better at finding customers? I don't think that's an AI thing, that's a "me" thing. Still, I'm making a living doing this, working less, and have way more control over my own life. My life kind of rules now compared to what it was a year ago.

I personally am doing some LLM work right now where, if successful, I will have accomplished what was years worth of effort in a couple of weeks. But I feel "totally disorganized" in the way I'm doing it. I think that may be inevitable since becoming organized is a natural part of doing a project the slow, "old fashioned way" and just orienting oneself to the process can be a significant and inevitable part of the ef…

Honestly, my strategy has been "building custom tools to help me cope" having lots of terminal tabs open, tmux, and hope.

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Post by edgyquant »

paimapi wrote: post #52
edgyquant wrote: post #46

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Making bad financial decisions is a symptom of mania though

and when you look up what spending while having a manic episode looks like, does it resemble a layoff? or is it substantively different?

It absolutely could be the case a person in a manic episode lays off a bunch of people that wouldn’t be out of the question at all

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Post by paimapi »

edgyquant wrote: post #55
paimapi wrote: post #52

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and when you look up what spending while having a manic episode looks like, does it resemble a layoff? or is it substantively different?

It absolutely could be the case a person in a manic episode lays off a bunch of people that wouldn’t be out of the question at all

sure and if layoffs were clinical indicators for mania, we'd probably see a whole lot less of them. unfortunately that's not our world
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