I've reset this more than once and the last time I made a careful note of when I did it and to my surprise I found it re-enabled when I checked just now. Make sure you check this thing to see if it hasn't been re-enabled if you believe it to be off right now.
Tell HN: OpenAI keeps re-enabling the 'allow training' setting
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Re: Tell HN: OpenAI keeps re-enabling the 'allow training' setting
#2If you document it properly then this basically destroys any legal claim they can make about that checkbox.
Re: Tell HN: OpenAI keeps re-enabling the 'allow training' setting
#3> Make sure you check this thing to see if it hasn't been re-enabled if you believe it to be off right now.
Or simply switch to a competitor. Assuming this is not just a bug, why would one stand for such disrespectful and sneaky behavior?
FWIW, I have not seen this happen for me.
Re: Tell HN: OpenAI keeps re-enabling the 'allow training' setting
#4> Make sure you check this thing to see if it hasn't been re-enabled if you believe it to be off right now. Or simply switch to a competitor. Assuming this is not just a bug, why would one stand for such disrespectful and sneaky behavior? FWIW, I have not seen this happen for me.
And don't switch to Misanthropic lol. They are even worst...
Re: Tell HN: OpenAI keeps re-enabling the 'allow training' setting
#5My cynicism fails me on this matter... do I cynically believe that these companies keep deliberately and routinely re- or un-checking these checkboxes because of the obvious benefits of "whoopsie guess you allowed these after all"? Or do I cynically believe that they are just so completely incompetent and inept at the simple act of maintaining settings that there may be a number of these that are not entirely intentional? As evidenced by the number of other bugs and configuration failures and random settings changes on update I see in other places? Sure, these sorts of settings sure seem to get spontaneously flipped more often than the other ones but they aren't the only settings I've seen get nuked on updates.
Now, obviously, considered as a whole, I think we're looking at "both". But when I wonder about specific cases like this one, that doesn't help.
Re: Tell HN: OpenAI keeps re-enabling the 'allow training' setting
#6My cynicism fails me on this matter... do I cynically believe that these companies keep deliberately and routinely re- or un-checking these checkboxes because of the obvious benefits of "whoopsie guess you allowed these after all"? Or do I cynically believe that they are just so completely incompetent and inept at the simple act of maintaining settings that there may be a number of these that are not entirely intenti…
Oh no… OpenAI, the company who encourages and instructs Apple employees on how to get them data on apple products when they accept an offer?
Re: Tell HN: OpenAI keeps re-enabling the 'allow training' setting
#7My cynicism fails me on this matter... do I cynically believe that these companies keep deliberately and routinely re- or un-checking these checkboxes because of the obvious benefits of "whoopsie guess you allowed these after all"? Or do I cynically believe that they are just so completely incompetent and inept at the simple act of maintaining settings that there may be a number of these that are not entirely intenti…
"Sufficiently advanced incompetence is indistinguishable from malice"
Re: Tell HN: OpenAI keeps re-enabling the 'allow training' setting
#8I've noticed that toggle sets a local storage entry, but the value of it doesn't appear to matter at all for new tab loads. I hoped it's "just" a UI bug, but some agent-driven reverse engineering of the page should reveal the answer, as well as how intentional it was.
Re: Tell HN: OpenAI keeps re-enabling the 'allow training' setting
#9Based on their behavior over the past few years, why would you assume that checkbox even does anything at all?
Re: Tell HN: OpenAI keeps re-enabling the 'allow training' setting
#10There's also this setting here which I have set to 'Do not train on my content' even though I trust it the same as the 'allow training' one...